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Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

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Post by allover »

kakarot wrote: post #30
allover wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, CSS is a presentational / style-sheet language. That doesn't make it distinct from programming, you've just added more specificity.

Sorry bud, that just isn't the case. CSS is not turing complete, is not a programming language, etc. It is a declarative, presentational language with no processing capabilities beyond extremely basic math. There is no if, and, or but about it. Are you a web developer? * edited to sound like less of an asshole

The leap you're making is that turing completeness is a requisite to call something a programming language. Not so.

You need to do more editing.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#32

Post by [deleted] »

onion2k wrote: post #22
nodesocket wrote: post #15

Their landing pages are just so beautiful, like fine art. I do wonder though the return on investment. The pages must take forever to create. Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash.

Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash. Paypal is far bigger Stripe, so it's not that.

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Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

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Post by kakarot »

allover wrote: post #31
kakarot wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry bud, that just isn't the case. CSS is not turing complete, is not a programming language, etc. It is a declarative, presentational language with no processing capabilities beyond extremely basic math. There is no if, and, or but about it. Are you a web developer? * edited to sound like less of an asshole

The leap you're making is that turing completeness is a requisite to call something a programming language. Not so. You need to do more editing.

I'm not making that leap at all. I specifically classified turing completeness and being considered a programming separately. Read my post again.

A programming language doesn't need to be turing complete. But CSS is neither of the two.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#34

Post by allover »

kakarot wrote: post #33
allover wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The leap you're making is that turing completeness is a requisite to call something a programming language. Not so. You need to do more editing.

I'm not making that leap at all. I specifically classified turing completeness and being considered a programming separately. Read my post again. A programming language doesn't need to be turing complete. But CSS is neither of the two.

I read your post. You clearly brought in turing completeness to try and support your argument. Your other points I've addressed, think we're done here.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#35

Post by kennydude »

nagyf wrote: post #25

Never used stripe before, I haven't even heard much about them before, but their site(and this blog post) is convincing so I was thinking I will try it, but then I bumped into this thread: https://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/payments-shipping-fulfilment... Well, this isn't so convincing.

Only a few people seem to have issues communicating with them. Weirdly I've not had many issues.

Certainly a lot better than some payment providers I've worked with

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#36

Post by rtpg »

nodesocket wrote: post #15

Their landing pages are just so beautiful, like fine art. I do wonder though the return on investment. The pages must take forever to create. Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash.

I think it's an extension of the excellent work that goes into their entire front-end. There's a great mix of functionality to simplicity that makes me be able to unambiguously recommend it for people starting out with CC payments.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

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Post by zer0tonin »

onion2k wrote: post #22
nodesocket wrote: post #15

Their landing pages are just so beautiful, like fine art. I do wonder though the return on investment. The pages must take forever to create. Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash.

Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash. Paypal is far bigger Stripe, so it's not that.

That doesn't mean Stripe is small.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#38

Post by Silhouette »

nagyf wrote: post #25

Never used stripe before, I haven't even heard much about them before, but their site(and this blog post) is convincing so I was thinking I will try it, but then I bumped into this thread: https://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/payments-shipping-fulfilment... Well, this isn't so convincing.

That thread is about four years old. Stripe got big very quickly and definitely had some growing pains for a while. Their customer support really was that bad/non-existent for a while. It was a lot of hassle to sort things out when we had a dubious chargeback too.

To give credit where it's due, they have improved since. Gone are the days when they were the small developer's payment service and you could expect to reach technical people straight away via their contact addresses, but they do at least seem to reply to messages eventually now.

IMHO they still have room for improvement. In particular, 24-48 hours for a first substantial response doesn't seem unusual, and that's far too long for a merchant who might have one of their own customers in limbo or some sort of ongoing dispute or fraud that they need to deal with quickly.

But at least Stripe seem to be moving in the right direction and genuinely trying to do better. Our experience of their support is still much better than you'll get from a lot of other payment services if you're only a small merchant.

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

#39

Post by Silhouette »

nodesocket wrote: post #15

Their landing pages are just so beautiful, like fine art. I do wonder though the return on investment. The pages must take forever to create. Perhaps Stripe just has that much cash.

The leadership team at Stripe seem to have a refreshingly simple and holistic view about how they run their business: they see that growing e-commerce as a whole is good for them, because it makes the pie bigger and they're getting a slice of it.

Much of what they do supports that overall strategy, from making attractive things for developers to some of the high-profile hires and acquisitions they've been making recently. Apparently the strategy is a good one, because here we all are talking about them on a site full of entrepreneurial types, and today it's not because of the service they provide but just because of their landing pages. :-)

Re: Connect: behind the front-end experience

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Post by svckr »

Okay, I'm gonna say it: I had to chuckle at the name "Connect", because there is already [0], and _even more so_ with Stripe also naming their user onboarding flow "Express", like [1].

Beautiful work nonetheless.

[0] https://github.com/senchalabs/connect [1] https://github.com/expressjs/express

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