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Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by ArlenBales »

hobofan wrote: post #8
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Atom still has a richer plugin ecosystem.

I don't see any Mercurial plugins nearly as full featured as the one for vscode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mrcrowl....

Also, does Atom show you repo changes in the scrollbar, or have a plugin for this? When I tried Atom awhile back it didn't have this, and vscode has it built-in.

As far as richness, I've found a matching plugin in vscode for every plugin I used in sublime text (about 10 plugins).

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by soapdog »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #24
gri3v3r wrote: post #23

I prefer Notepad++. On Linux, Geany is a viable alternative.... If I need an IDE, I will get an IDE. I want my text editor to be as lightweight as possible. This was not the case with Atom.

I use Sublime because I absolutely can't live without multicursors.

VSCode[1] has multicursors and I believe that atom[2] does too... not advocating for your switch, you should be happy with whatever editor you choose, but, that feature is more wide-spread than people realize.

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29953479/multiple-cursor... [2]: https://atom.io/packages/multi-cursor

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by ArlenBales »

marcoms wrote: post #15
Etheryte wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who switched from Atom to VSCode some time ago, I'm yet to find anything that VSCode doesn't have – are there any notable examples where Atom is ahead of the curve or is it just that it has more plugins?

UI themes, and a much more cohesive default theme

Which theme? vscode has hundreds of themes, and most of them ported from sublime text or other editors. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?target=VSCode&ca...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#34

Post by giancarlostoro »

ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Used to use Atom over VS Code, but for whatever reason VS Code just feels more like a lightweight IDE than a text editor. I don't consider it a text editor by default because it comes with debugging and other features. The fact that it's called Visual STUDIO Code tells me it's not necessarily lightweight which I'm fine with. Visual Studio Code has amazing D and Rust plugins that are better than programming D in most other environments for me, including Sublime Text and using the IntelliJ plugin. The only other editor that had decent D support for me was emacs with Spacemacs setup.

If Atom came close to the experience I get out of Visual Studio Code I may consider it, but at that point, why would I bother switching. I still use Sublime sometimes, like when regular Visual Studio freezes up (cause of ReSharper) and I just want to edit code without intellisense freezing me up.

Also C# support for VS Code is amazing. I'm almost saddened that it's not ported over to support Sublime Text, the plugins for ST seem to be discontinued in some cases and abandoned. Atom just always feels sluggish, but VS Code just seems to open up quickly and they use repgrip for code searching so it's Rust running through all your source files to find whatever you're looking for at blazing fast speeds.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by jhasse »

baby wrote: post #28
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I'm using Atom now for Go and never really tried VSCode. What would be the reason to switch?

Excellent debugging :)

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by jhasse »

soapdog wrote: post #32
yoodenvranx wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Sublime because I absolutely can't live without multicursors.

VSCode[1] has multicursors and I believe that atom[2] does too... not advocating for your switch, you should be happy with whatever editor you choose, but, that feature is more wide-spread than people realize. [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29953479/multiple-cursor... [2]: https://atom.io/packages/multi-cursor

I think he just wanted to explain why Notepad++ and Geany are not an option for him.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by ggordan »

baby wrote: post #27

This is the 5th time I try Atom (after switching back to sublime) but I might start using this a lot more now that I've discovered go-plus. Atom might really be the best text editor for golang.

I was in the same boat until I tried VScode. It's a really great editor, configurable, and performant enough that I don't miss Sublime. Also the Go support is pretty great.

https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by quantummkv »

hobofan wrote: post #8
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Atom still has a richer plugin ecosystem.

Except when you need a debugger. VS Code has an built-in debugger with maintained plugins for major languages.

Atom has nothing in this regard.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by icc97 »

reissbaker wrote: post #16
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I use Vim on *nix, but on Windows I use Atom — I find the UI friendlier and more polished than VSCode, and I honestly don't notice any difference in typing latency between the two. Vs Sublime, the plugin ecosystem is just so much better that it's not a real contest for me.

After having struggled a bit with using Vim in the Windows console (8 terminal colours, no bold or italic fonts and other weird unexplainable issues), I switched to GVim which does actually work remarkably well.

At least then you can bring the benefits you've spent time getting working in Linux into Windows.

As much as the purist in me wants to get it working in the DOS prompt especially with the Windows 10 improvements + Git SCM, I was wasting too much time.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by 8draco8 »

jhasse wrote: post #36
soapdog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode[1] has multicursors and I believe that atom[2] does too... not advocating for your switch, you should be happy with whatever editor you choose, but, that feature is more wide-spread than people realize. [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29953479/multiple-cursor... [2]: https://atom.io/packages/multi-cursor

I think he just wanted to explain why Notepad++ and Geany are not an option for him.

Notepad++ have multicursors https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/multi-editing.html and block editing https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/column-mode-editing.h... . Don't know about Geany.
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