WebRTC was the #1 most requested web platform feature for Safari. Now coming to macOS and iOS: https://webkit.org/blog/7726/announcing-webrtc-and-media-cap... You can even try it out now on Safari Technology Preview: https://webkit.org/blog/7627/safari-technology-preview-32/
Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
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Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
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As long as we get there eventually, I will always side with taking the time to do it right. There is room in the world for both a highly advanced browser, with the sacrifices that come with that, and a workhorse. Nothing is stopping you from having them both installed (except, well, on iOS).
> Nothing is stopping you from having them both installed Sure, but it stops your site from working cross-browser.
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#33Does this mean Apple may actually implement Service Workers and Web Push in the next Safari?? :)
[1]: https://developer.apple.com/notifications/safari-push-notifi...
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#34Apple and Microsoft waited five years to deploy this thing. Given how quickly it was implemented and adopted by other browsers, I have to wonder what their motives were for deliberately not integrating it; because frankly they could've done it pretty quickly at any point in the last five years. I remember having to integrate WebRTC through cordova (thank goodness somebody did it first) a couple years ago, and wonderi…
Don't forget energy efficiency. That's a huge priority for Apple and explains a lot of delays. Safari is way more energy efficient than Chrome.[1] [1] https://daringfireball.net/2017/05/safari_vs_chrome_on_the_m...
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#35I saw this yesterday on twitter and my thought was "they don't support webrtc yet?!? seriously?" It sometimes baffles me how apple is holding up progress on the web - and that they aren't criticized more for it.
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#36What WebRTC apps can we expect will be mainstream in, say, 6 years? I'm just trying to picture what this technology will allow (or replace).
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That's the $1B question. The obvious application is the video conferencing style hangouts, Skype (which are using WebRTC already). The nice thing about having video conf capabilities in the browser is that you can embed it in any web page and start do interesting things with it - like interactive lectures. Improved gaming networking is another vertical. We've built Peer5 (W17) on top of WebRTC to create a P2P CDN for…
What about a WebRTC version of Twitch.tv? Is that feasible in 5 or 10 years? Twitch does transcoding and I'm not sure how transcoding would work with WebRTC.
The main reasons for transcoding are downstream bandwidth usage and codec support. WebRTC mandates VP8, so codecs shouldn't be an issue. Downstream bandwidth usage probably wouldn't be a major concern when it's viable to stream at 1080p to thousands of viewers from a home connection (though I doubt that's going to happen soon). So you could probably ignore transcoding entirely.
However, marketing would probably be an issue, since this architecture would prevent streamers from having more than about a hundred watchers, meaning that the big fish would stick to Twitch. That said, I suppose you could have a failover system, where larger streamers would switch to a relay-based system.
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#38WebRTC was the #1 most requested web platform feature for Safari. Now coming to macOS and iOS: https://webkit.org/blog/7726/announcing-webrtc-and-media-cap... You can even try it out now on Safari Technology Preview: https://webkit.org/blog/7627/safari-technology-preview-32/
I can't get many WebRTC projects/test pages to actually work on the new Safari preview. Is there anywhere they list the specific features implemented from the spec?
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#39WebRTC was the #1 most requested web platform feature for Safari. Now coming to macOS and iOS: https://webkit.org/blog/7726/announcing-webrtc-and-media-cap... You can even try it out now on Safari Technology Preview: https://webkit.org/blog/7627/safari-technology-preview-32/
I can't get many WebRTC projects/test pages to actually work on the new Safari preview. Is there anywhere they list the specific features implemented from the spec?
Re: Apple Announces Full WebRTC Support in Safari 11
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't get many WebRTC projects/test pages to actually work on the new Safari preview. Is there anywhere they list the specific features implemented from the spec?
Try running https://test.webrtc.org/
If I tick "Remove Legacy WebRTC API", and retry, they all fail until it gets stuck with no message on "Udp enabled".