I made something similar that crowdsource tinder responses, got 7000 unique visitors in the first week but I got tired of maintaining it http://sharpmagazine.com/2016/04/06/this-guy-built-an-app-to... I still have the code that actually allows you to directly connect to Tinder's API... so your users could just sign in with facebook instead of having to take screenshots. Don't know if you're interested but shoot me an…
Launch HN: WittyThumbs (YC S17) – We help improve online-dating conversations
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#32Thank you for creating something and trying to help people in one of life's most important activities. I want you to know that everything after this is coming from a place of genuine respect and support. My preemptive apologies for being blunt. "The two of us had that sinking feeling in our early 20s that we’d missed our best opportunity to date," is a bad sign. First, you were in your early 20's! Grow, learn, break…
> A "failed" relationship is a chance to learn about yourself, others and relationships. The only way is to try. Sure, you can use that logic to argue that any skill should be self-taught in order to appreciate the "journey" of trial and error. But if you just want to learn a skill as efficiently as possible, in this case dating skills, it's nice to have access to expert advice.
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#33Just shared this with a friend who could use some help in this dept. I think with products like this, the first instinct is to play up the potential "ick" factor, or to view it as Silicon Valley enabling the idea of privileged people looking at prospective dating partners like objects instead of people. However, I'm really for these services! I think they're fun, and they can really help people who for whatever reaso…
That's true, men are not bombarded with messages. They would love to be bombarded with any messages but they aren't. There is a huge disproportion between who makes the first step -- in 99% of cases it's the men. I understand that women would prefer to receive only well-written, thoughtful messages with a bit of personal touch. The problem is that when men write such messages, they end up in the waste bin with roughly at the same rate as "emotionally vacant" messages. No equally thoughtful, polite response, no any response at all. You might think that in theory the response rate should be higher but in reality it's pretty much the same. Therefore, switching to "emotionally vacant" messages is a logical behavior strategy, because it optimizes time and emotional investment per response. If making more effort produces the same poor result then why bother?
Online dating is a horrible experience not only for women, but also for men. In a different way, but hardly less embarrassing.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A "failed" relationship is a chance to learn about yourself, others and relationships. The only way is to try. Sure, you can use that logic to argue that any skill should be self-taught in order to appreciate the "journey" of trial and error. But if you just want to learn a skill as efficiently as possible, in this case dating skills, it's nice to have access to expert advice.
What's your conversion ratio as an expert?
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#35Re: Launch HN: WittyThumbs (YC S17) – We help improve online-dating conversations
#36Thank you for creating something and trying to help people in one of life's most important activities. I want you to know that everything after this is coming from a place of genuine respect and support. My preemptive apologies for being blunt. "The two of us had that sinking feeling in our early 20s that we’d missed our best opportunity to date," is a bad sign. First, you were in your early 20's! Grow, learn, break…
I'd disagree with this. A failed experiment is valuable to the extent you're able to draw the correct conclusions from the failure, and there's not magical guarantee that people will be able to do so. I'd argue that many people, especially those who may use this service, don't really have the experience and context to place their failures into. I'd bet most would blame themselves for their failures and withdraw further into their own projections of what made them fail, such as their lack of money, good looks, etc.
>Third, this is creating an arms race of banter instead of allowing people to genuinely connect. There's a famous OK Cupid article demonstrating why being your most authentic self is actually beneficial to your dating life
I think this is the most pernicious dating advice I typically see. Besides the fact that people have many different facets of their 'self' and have no idea as to how to present their best attributes, it essentially tells people who are looking for reasons as to why they're failing "no, this is your fault". Much better advice would be to exercise, socialize more, take an acting or improv class, go to counseling - in short, don't just 'be' yourself, change who you are to become a better person.
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#37I also want to point out that this is actually pretty damn good. I know I was clueless when I first started dating and this would have helped.
I think this could be a great first step for people who want some feedback about what they're doing right and wrong. The problem is when these people meet face to face these same issues will come up. Again, they're going to need some feedback. That might be a good avenue to move into later if this takes off?
Primarily though - work on yourselves and understand who you really are. Once you do these things the rest should fall into place.
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#39It seems to me that all advice is given by your experts, which is nice but also time consuming. Since you're gathering all this data, have you considered using machine learning instead?