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Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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Now we just need someone to build a phone without vomiting their own crappy interface all over it. The Nexus One is great, but can't we have a bit more choice than 1?

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty the Motorola Droid has vanilla Android installed.

Edit: This doesn't really address your complaint since 2 vanilla Android phones isn't really that much different than one, but just wanted make sure the Droid wasn't left out.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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Why would they merge their improvements upstream. That would only lead to them losing their (hypothetical) competitive advantage. Handset manufacturers don't care about the android platform they care about their own implementation of the android platform. The battle isn't iPhone vs. Android, it's Apple vs HTC vs Motorola vs Samsung vs SE vs LG vs Nokia vs... Samsung is just as (un)likely to help HTC or LG as they are…

Absolutely. And that, in essence, is probably the biggest issue I see with Android in its fight against the iPhone. It's even worse than Mac vs PC as at least Windows (at a given revision) looked and behaved pretty much the same on every machine. The theming was light (especially early on, when there was no support for it) and manufacturers added crap, but didn't replace whole subsystems just because. I also find tha…

Actually, if you look back at the early days of Windows 3.0 and 3.1, it was very common for OEM's like Compaq, HP, Packard Bell, etc. to include their own proprietary "skin" on Windows (usually as shallow as just a replacement for Program Manager).

On a separate note, I don't know why everyone always casts this as an Android vs iPhone fight. Android doesn't need to "beat" the iPhone, the iPhone isn't (by a loooong shot) the largest player in the smartphone market anyway. (http://gigaom.com/2010/03/18/the-mobile-os-market/) There's plenty of marketshare for both iPhone and Android to take away from RIM and Symbian, not to mention that smartphone market is growing very rapidly as a whole.

As long as the sales of Android phones keep growing anywhere near as rapidly as they have been, Android will be HUGE even if they never take any marketshare away from the iPhone. (http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2010/05/27/deciphe...)

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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The Android Team needs to aim pass the IPhone UX if they plan to win. The Android platform needs to tighten their controls around the UI a little bit more. The very least they can do is make it so that when people look at a smart phone/device, they instantly recognize it as an Android powered device. I think that will help the brand a little bit.

As a counterpoint, how many people can look at a Symbian phone and instantly recognize it as a Symbian powered device? Yet Nokia sells vastly more Symbian powered smartphone than Apple sells iPhones: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/5/21/smartphones-b...

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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Absolutely. And that, in essence, is probably the biggest issue I see with Android in its fight against the iPhone. It's even worse than Mac vs PC as at least Windows (at a given revision) looked and behaved pretty much the same on every machine. The theming was light (especially early on, when there was no support for it) and manufacturers added crap, but didn't replace whole subsystems just because. I also find tha…

Actually, if you look back at the early days of Windows 3.0 and 3.1, it was very common for OEM's like Compaq, HP, Packard Bell, etc. to include their own proprietary "skin" on Windows (usually as shallow as just a replacement for Program Manager). On a separate note, I don't know why everyone always casts this as an Android vs iPhone fight. Android doesn't need to "beat" the iPhone, the iPhone isn't (by a loooong sh…

> There's plenty of marketshare for both iPhone and Android to take away from RIM and Symbian, not to mention that smartphone market is growing very rapidly as a whole.

Symbian is being eaten alive right now and fading fast, so that one's happening, and the iPhone (and Android behind it) have decided to shoot for the wider consumer landscape, not for RIM's entrenched "Enterprise" position. They're slowly adding enterprise-targetted features (VPNs and the likes) but that's secondary for now, they're not trying to battle RIM. Yet anyway.

But this is cast as a battle between iOS and Android because they are going head to head in terms of demographics, purpose, abilities, mindshare. The means are different but Google clearly aims Android at the target iOS opened, and it's not like they're shy about it.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, if you look back at the early days of Windows 3.0 and 3.1, it was very common for OEM's like Compaq, HP, Packard Bell, etc. to include their own proprietary "skin" on Windows (usually as shallow as just a replacement for Program Manager). On a separate note, I don't know why everyone always casts this as an Android vs iPhone fight. Android doesn't need to "beat" the iPhone, the iPhone isn't (by a loooong sh…

> There's plenty of marketshare for both iPhone and Android to take away from RIM and Symbian, not to mention that smartphone market is growing very rapidly as a whole. Symbian is being eaten alive right now and fading fast, so that one's happening, and the iPhone (and Android behind it) have decided to shoot for the wider consumer landscape, not for RIM's entrenched "Enterprise" position. They're slowly adding enter…

My point being that there's plenty of marketshare for both platforms to succeed. The competitors are currently larger, and really don't have a compelling offering compared to Android and iPhoone.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

#37
post #14

The Android Team needs to aim pass the IPhone UX if they plan to win. The Android platform needs to tighten their controls around the UI a little bit more. The very least they can do is make it so that when people look at a smart phone/device, they instantly recognize it as an Android powered device. I think that will help the brand a little bit.

As a counterpoint, how many people can look at a Symbian phone and instantly recognize it as a Symbian powered device? Yet Nokia sells vastly more Symbian powered smartphone than Apple sells iPhones: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/5/21/smartphones-b...

You're right. Symbian does sell more devices when there were no real competition.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

#38
post #3

Now we just need someone to build a phone without vomiting their own crappy interface all over it. The Nexus One is great, but can't we have a bit more choice than 1?

The Android Team should build skins/themes like Windows OS. So we have choices.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

#39
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a counterpoint, how many people can look at a Symbian phone and instantly recognize it as a Symbian powered device? Yet Nokia sells vastly more Symbian powered smartphone than Apple sells iPhones: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/5/21/smartphones-b...

You're right. Symbian does sell more devices when there were no real competition.

They sell more devices than Apple does right now.

Re: Android Team “Laser Focused” On The User Experience For Next Release

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. Symbian does sell more devices when there were no real competition.

They sell more devices than Apple does right now .

You're right again. I guess the right question would be who is growing and who is shrinking.
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