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No one ever became a billionaire by homemaking
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_divor...
Machine Bias: Man Is to Computer Programmer as Woman Is to Homemaker?
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#32Machine Learning creates models that reflect the data, not the truth.
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#33In the sjw-religion, why is "homemaker" considered inferior to "computer programmer"? One of the oldest and most important human occupations versus hunched over at a desk slaving for a salary until being outsourced to a bot in 5 years? I've never understood the default sjw/"feminism" assumptions that anything feminine is "bad".
There's no reason "homemaker" should be inferior to "computer programmer", but there's also no reason that homemaker should be "feminine". Men are equally capable of taking care of the house, and women are equally capable of programming computers.
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#34In the sjw-religion, why is "homemaker" considered inferior to "computer programmer"? One of the oldest and most important human occupations versus hunched over at a desk slaving for a salary until being outsourced to a bot in 5 years? I've never understood the default sjw/"feminism" assumptions that anything feminine is "bad".
It's not a religious position to observe the existence of economic and social disparities.
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Martha Stewart got halfway there.
Unfortunately she is not the best example as a lot of her money was made in the widely publicized inside trading case. There are others though for sure.
She avoided about $45,000 of losses by selling ImClone stock early. Martha Stewart's net worth is over $600 million.
The fact that it was such an inconsequential amount for her really made an impression on me at the time.
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Unfortunately she is not the best example as a lot of her money was made in the widely publicized inside trading case. There are others though for sure.
> a lot of her money was made in the widely publicized inside trading case She avoided about $45,000 of losses by selling ImClone stock early. Martha Stewart's net worth is over $600 million. The fact that it was such an inconsequential amount for her really made an impression on me at the time.
I agree I was mistaken though about the case.
Here's a more interesting example... http://millionairemommynextdoor.com/about-me/ Exceptional for a reason though. And it's not a pure one, life never is.
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Recidivism prediction systems will usually tell you that black people are more likely to get arrested/convicted again. They do so accurately, but also result in longer sentences for black people. https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.07524
I mean, that same algorithm could be used to determine that blacks or other at-risk groups should receive extra attention or support. An accurate picture of reality can be used poorly or well.
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How does it pay less? You get to have a place to live, eat, sleep, all for free, without having to stay away from your children for an extended part of the day.
To whom is the paycheck made out? In a relationship with a large pay disparity, there is a financial dependence and vast power difference between the involved parties. If your partner started to abuse you, would you rather be the homemaker or the person whose name is on the paychecks?
> If your partner started to abuse you, would you rather be the homemaker or the person whose name is on the paychecks?
In that circumstance, I'd rather be a woman. While it's very difficult to find anything resembling an unbiased source, it seems apparent that it is substantially more difficult for a man to seek law enforcement intervention as a victim of domestic abuse.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, that same algorithm could be used to determine that blacks or other at-risk groups should receive extra attention or support. An accurate picture of reality can be used poorly or well.
There is a much more fundamental problem, which is that people are bad at understanding the difference between "is" and "should". No amount of information about what the world looks like tells you anything about what course of action is the most moral (and vice versa). If you are building a system that predicts recidivism rates (figuring out what "is"), then any piece of information that improves your accuracy is goo…
It's just the reality of how the justice system works. We have trust in the approximation of justice that the judiciary provides and constantly struggle to improve that judiciary.
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How does it pay less? You get to have a place to live, eat, sleep, all for free, without having to stay away from your children for an extended part of the day.
To whom is the paycheck made out? In a relationship with a large pay disparity, there is a financial dependence and vast power difference between the involved parties. If your partner started to abuse you, would you rather be the homemaker or the person whose name is on the paychecks?