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Gene therapy (and CRISPR) is ultimately going to eliminate most if not every ailment/issue/genetic problem that we have, including aging and eye problems. Very thankful we are reaching the point where we can go into our cells and fix ourselves.

Seems too good to be true

To be fair, they probably said the same about penicillin when it was discovered.

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Back in 2011, there was an announcement from MIT about a new approach to a broad-spectrum antiviral that appeared to work.[1] This goes way beyond an AIDS-specific cure. But it was at MIT Lincoln Labs, which doesn't usually do bio. So the researcher moved to Draper Labs, but didn't get much funding. Then that funding ran out. Now the guy behind this is trying to get funding on Indiegogo.[3] The problem seems to be that it's too far along for small-scale YC-sized funding, but not far enough along to sell to Big Pharma. The guy behind it clearly doesn't know how to get funded. He has a web site [4] and keeps trying for crowd funding.

Some VC needs to talk to this guy. This might or might not work, but the upside is good and the costs aren't that high.

[1] https://www.ll.mit.edu/news/DRACO.html [2] http://www.businessinsider.com/todd-rider-draco-crowdfunding... [3] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dracos-may-be-effective-a... [4] https://riderinstitute.org/

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Wow, I had not connected the idea of using CRISPR genome editing with targeting virus dna segments. If I understand the technique correctly (and I am not a biologist for sure!) they used an adeno virus modified with a specific Cas9 setup to elide HIV DNA from cells it infected (normally I associate viruses with adding DNA rather than removing it :-) Is that even close to a correct interpretation? It sounds like the t…

Crispr actually was originally discovered by microbiologists who found it as a mechanism to defend against viruses.

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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As exciting as this is, we already know how people have used the decreased danger of HIV infection to become careless about other types of STIs. Given that our antibiotics are losing their ability to treat many common STIs, an HIV cure without some advancement in antibiotics will be swapping one epidemic for a series of others. Edit: I wanted to add a couple sources for my claims above. Once people stopped believing…

That's ok, we can use CRISPR as an antibiotic: http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/42992/...

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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It's awesome that this is possible. Right now HIV infections are basically a minor nuisance, provided you're taking the appropriate medication, but this bodes well for future treatment of viral infections.

> Right now HIV infections are basically a minor nuisance, provided you're taking the appropriate medication Even with your caveat, the fact that more than 1 million people died from HIV in 2015 is probably a good signal to not use the term "minor nuisance". https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html

People who don't have access to truvada definitely aren't going to be getting cutting-edge gene therapy any time soon. And how many people died of type I diabetes in 2015?

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Back in 2011, there was an announcement from MIT about a new approach to a broad-spectrum antiviral that appeared to work.[1] This goes way beyond an AIDS-specific cure. But it was at MIT Lincoln Labs, which doesn't usually do bio. So the researcher moved to Draper Labs, but didn't get much funding. Then that funding ran out. Now the guy behind this is trying to get funding on Indiegogo.[3] The problem seems to be th…

The funding the scientist is seeking is a pittance compared to MIT's endowment, especially considering they own his patents, they should be funding it.

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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As exciting as this is, we already know how people have used the decreased danger of HIV infection to become careless about other types of STIs. Given that our antibiotics are losing their ability to treat many common STIs, an HIV cure without some advancement in antibiotics will be swapping one epidemic for a series of others. Edit: I wanted to add a couple sources for my claims above. Once people stopped believing…

I'm not sure the point of your statement -- even if we accept that "an HIV cure without some advancement in antibiotics will be swapping one epidemic for a series of others", what's our alternative? Not moving forward with the HIV cure?

The field's challenges right now in terms of STIs are addressed with more advocacy, outreach, screening, education, etc. Treatment is phenomenally effective currently for gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, etc. Antibiotic resistance has been seen in some of those, sure, and will likely increase, but we deal with that as it comes -- just as we have with every other resistant pathogen. I'm not eager to keep a life-long and fatal STI around (HIV) to try to forestall that outcome.

Also: Those sources don't really support your claims. They describe an explosion of STDs that (at least as posited in those articles) are tied to decreased public health funding. There is indeed lots of discussion around risk compensation in light of improved HIV treatment, PrEP, HCV treatment, etc, but the data's a little unclear, and in my view is irrelevant to whether we should actually find and provide cures.

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if we fail to educate people about the dangers of other STIs.

Which is happening... I would say the excessive mediatic exposure of HIV have definitely worked to supress awareness and care for other STIs. For instance, I am HPV+ and didn't have a clue about the existance of such a thing before getting it.

Isn't this treatment good news for everyone with a persistent viral infection? Shouldn't we be able to reverse a large class of viruses with similar methods?

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems too good to be true

To be fair, they probably said the same about penicillin when it was discovered.

And in a way penicillin is too good to be true, now that bacteria are widely resistant to it and many other antibiotics.

Re: CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals

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Last time I read about CRISPR used to remove HIV from infected cells, the virus mutated to defeat the CRISPR attack - could this happen here?

Isn't the only way to mutate to avoid CRISPR to change your genes enough that CRISPR can't identify you? If so, doesn't that mean we just find the new genetic signature and generate a variation that targets it?

I see CRISPR as grepping through memory for running instruction code. Sure, the code can change, but if you see the behavior, then it's a matter of finding the new code signature manually and generating a new CRISPR variant target it. If that's accurate, the similarities to anti-malware are pretty cool. Just keep updating your virus DB.

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