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Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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What an awful article. It says in one breath that women are already better adapted to the modern world than men are, and in the next, says that "things still need to be done".

You can't have it both ways. Pick one thesis and stay with it. I also like how women are still portrayed as victims in this article, even though they have better jobs and better careers than men do. Like I said, pick one.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

#32

How many karma points do you need before you can start voting down stories?

You can't downvote stories. You can only flag them. I'm not sure where the karma threshold is. I flagged this one, though. :)

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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post #2

Poorly educated or badly educated? Badly educated would indicate that the education is based on incorrect facts or processes. Poorly educated would indicate that there may not be enough education, etc.

Badly. Education processes are not built around learning, nor around meta-learning (learning how to learn new information). Education is still built largely around _retaining_, testing, and hoarding knowledge, without interest in discovery or the processes that created knowledge. This medieval mindset holds back much of the education system. A larger essay on many of the problems and sources of these problems: http:/…

But I don't think that was the author's intention. Uneducated would have sufficed.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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post #4

I hoped reading this would provide insight, but instead it only offered some random eassywriter's disdain of people different from him/herself.

I work with a dude who is 50 from Michigan. It's amazing to hear stories of what an American lifestyle in the 70's and 80's was like. With 40,000 income he could buy a house, a vacation house in northern Michigan, a boat and two great vacations a year.

Its hard to admit standards of living are decreasing. There is def a lot of blame to go around. I agree one should not be disdainful of people who are different.

This red team vs blue team logic is getting us no where.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

#36
"Some 95% of Fortune 500 CEOs are male, as are 98% of the self-made billionaires on the Forbes rich list and 93% of the world’s heads of government..." It CAN'T be related to women's desires or choices: men and women are IDENTICAL! again, "And those old stereotypes are deeply ingrained in the minds of the men they marginalise; they no more see jobs centred on serving or caring as their sort of thing than society does..." It CAN'T be related to men's desires or choices: men and women are IDENTICAL!

Are we ready yet to consider that men and women, while EQUAL, may not be IDENTICAL?????

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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post #19

"Although there is no reason in theory why men could not become nurses or care-home assistants, few do." This is true, but why is it that the shortage of women in technology fields is attributed to them not being accepted or even forced out? Maybe this isn't the general attitude, but I have certainly heard people say that woman aren't in tech as much because they feel unwelcome, whereas when talking about men in thos…

There is indeed a reason, that is women are naturally/biologically caretakers and nurturers. Women are more trusted and accepted as nurses and caregivers than men. Many women would be uncomfortable or refuse to have a male caregiver help bathe or dress them.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

#38
post #4

I hoped reading this would provide insight, but instead it only offered some random eassywriter's disdain of people different from him/herself.

I don't get much disdain from this article, I'm afraid. I think you might be reading too much into it.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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post #25

Then free public college would be nice, wouldn't it?

No, because the same complaints are equally applicable to the highly literate MA holders that serve coffee and fast food.

The "uneducated men" in this article have the advantage of not being saddled with 50k in debt, and they probably end up getting paid more with jobs like groundskeeper and forklift operator.

Making college free would remove that advantage and loop it back onto the group that is already positioned to get themselves into college.

Re: Badly educated men have not adapted well to trade, technology or feminism (2015)

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post #19

"Although there is no reason in theory why men could not become nurses or care-home assistants, few do." This is true, but why is it that the shortage of women in technology fields is attributed to them not being accepted or even forced out? Maybe this isn't the general attitude, but I have certainly heard people say that woman aren't in tech as much because they feel unwelcome, whereas when talking about men in thos…

No good ever comes out of going down this rabbit hole.

Yeah, god forbid people say anything that goes against the assumptions of du jour, which should be permanently set in stone...
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