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Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

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Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#31
How much of nginx's growth is, do you think, due to it being "better" than Apache httpd (which it isn't, BTW. Apache 2.4 is easily as fast and scalable as nginx), compared to either (1) The aggressive sales and marketing of NGINX the company or (2) nginx fronting Apache httpd and thus "hiding" the growth of Apache httpd usage. But there are lots of Apache httpd haters, for some reason, and so they LOVE promoting the FUD. And yeah, I am an admitted Apache fanboy so feel free to ignore my viewpoint if it shatters your world-view :)

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#32
post #30

This is kind of a weird statistic to try to analyze. So many uses of nginx are just the act of putting an Apache/IIS/etc site behind nginx, so technically, both servers still have market share but you only see nginx. It's just that nginx makes it so easy to do certain things, like supporting modern HTTPS, that you might as well add it to your stack rather than replace something.

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Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Nginx is not a political statement or software nor does it benefit it's author's causes in any way. With that said, use caddy. Not for political reasons, just because it's awesome. https://caddyserver.com/

It is not. This is why I ended my comment with "if such things matter to you".

Would you expect someone living in Russia and being active in business to come out as anti Putin?

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#35
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Calling it. Nginx won because it's configs are not xml. Apache should have learned by now.

Why all the hate against XML, especially when used for configuration? Having a schema configured is a plus.

XML for configs is fine, as long as you treat it as a binary format. Which means having tools to help manage those configs. Too many people use XML for configs and then call it done, which makes for a terrible experience.

XML with config helpers and the ability to open it in an editor and see what is going on and tweak it is a great experience. XML with the expectation that an editor will be used to configure it is a terrible experience.

The above also applies if you replace "XML" with "JSON". :-)

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XML should NEVER be used for configuration, not even if you're a Java or C# framework/middleware/application server.

Honestly, I think the statement, 'XML should NEVER be used, period,' is true as well: for any use case I can imagine there are superior alternatives to XML. Even if you have to interface with other services using XML, just use SXML ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SXML ) in your own code and marshal to XML at the very last instant. Ultimately, XML was a colossal mistake carried out to perfection.

I've never seen SXML before, but that looks way worse. All of Lisp's frustration of trying to match closing parens with none of Lisp's power.

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#37
post #30

This is kind of a weird statistic to try to analyze. So many uses of nginx are just the act of putting an Apache/IIS/etc site behind nginx, so technically, both servers still have market share but you only see nginx. It's just that nginx makes it so easy to do certain things, like supporting modern HTTPS, that you might as well add it to your stack rather than replace something.

People do that? And it's widespread? I've never heard of this.

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not. This is why I ended my comment with "if such things matter to you".

Would you expect someone living in Russia and being active in business to come out as anti Putin?

Yes, it is still possible, though increasingly harder to do (some of my friends expressed this explicitly and publicly). And even if it wasn't, silently doing your job is one thing — and enthusiastically supporting the current regime is another.

Re: Nginx reaches 33.3% web server market share while Apache falls below 50%

#39
post #31

How much of nginx's growth is, do you think, due to it being "better" than Apache httpd (which it isn't, BTW. Apache 2.4 is easily as fast and scalable as nginx), compared to either (1) The aggressive sales and marketing of NGINX the company or (2) nginx fronting Apache httpd and thus "hiding" the growth of Apache httpd usage. But there are lots of Apache httpd haters, for some reason, and so they LOVE promoting the…

It's not all about performance and scalability. Nginx is better, imo, because it has a better design and configuration.
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