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Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by WalterGR »

yanowitz wrote: post #23
araneae wrote: post #22

This made me feel slightly nauseated, and I'm not sure why.

Because it's incredibly misogynistic.

No it's not. It's describing a very specific situation.

She looks---really looks---at her husband and realizes that outside of his consumer marketing instincts and technical wizardry and (increasingly infrequent) write-ups in TechCrunch and VentureBeat and his nouveau confidence, he's quite boring. He was one of the guys she scrunched her nose at in high school.

She married someone she wasn't particularly interested in for what his money could buy her, and came to realize he is boring.

The story doesn't make generalizations about all women.

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by yummyfajitas »

gxs wrote: post #8

I've come to the conclusion that if you strip things down to basic principles, a woman that is looking for a man with a nice income, is really no different than us looking for a girl with big tits or with an interest in a special that. It's just some trait that she prefers in a partner. Every since I made this connection, I hold it less and less against women who want a man that makes a decent salary. My gf in colleg…

It's different in one very important respect; most likely, you are completely willing to admit that you like big tits. As you said, your ex girlfriend would never admit she wanted a man for his bank account.

The lack of honesty is why most people don't like golddiggers.

A golddigger [1] is morally equivalent to a guy who lies to women about wanting a relationship, simply with the goal of getting into her pants. Actually she is worse, since her actions are considerably more harmful.

[1] I exclude the honest golddiggers, of which I'm sure there are a few. I've got nothing against a girl honestly trading sex for money.

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by yummyfajitas »

ImFatYoureFat wrote: post #12
gxs wrote: post #8

I've come to the conclusion that if you strip things down to basic principles, a woman that is looking for a man with a nice income, is really no different than us looking for a girl with big tits or with an interest in a special that. It's just some trait that she prefers in a partner. Every since I made this connection, I hold it less and less against women who want a man that makes a decent salary. My gf in colleg…

While I wouldn't entirely disagree with you, I think the analogy needs a little tweaking. To my mind, it's not that the act of a girl looking for a rich guy and a guy looking for an attractive girl are the same act so much as it is that more times than not these two will find each other. Girls whose priorities are in wealth and financial security with not end up attracting guys who are interested in relationships bas…

Girls whose priorities are in wealth ...[will]... not end up attracting guys who are interested in relationships based off of emotional commonalities...Likewise...

You've obviously never dated in NY.

Many women will fake whatever they need to fake to get a rich guy. I'm told many men will do more or less the same thing to sleep with a girl (or so I'm told, I've got no personal experience though).

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by JesseAldridge »

ganjianwei wrote: post #17

When I read the comments I can't help but feel that Hacker News is 99% male because all the comments are written from a male perspective. Not just that, they also address the community as though the entire community is male. E.g. "is really no different than us looking for a girl with big tits," "Don't think of her as a potential mate." Does anyone know the gender ratio of HN members? I'd be curious to know if it wer…

Yes, the community is overwhelmingly male.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=591309

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by mattmaroon »

Alex3917 wrote: post #15
mattmaroon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is true, we should never forget that we are the one animal with the capability to move beyond this. Through conscious effort, you can overcome many of the artifacts of evolution that run contrary to your happiness in the world in which we live in now. It's not easy, and it's never complete, but you can continuously improve yourself.

How long until the Matt Maroon's Overcome Evolution DVD set is released? :-)

Hahaha. Classic.

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by _3u10 »

DavidMcLaughlin wrote: post #29
ganjianwei wrote: post #17

When I read the comments I can't help but feel that Hacker News is 99% male because all the comments are written from a male perspective. Not just that, they also address the community as though the entire community is male. E.g. "is really no different than us looking for a girl with big tits," "Don't think of her as a potential mate." Does anyone know the gender ratio of HN members? I'd be curious to know if it wer…

What you are describing is the concept of "Male gaze" in feminist theory. As common as this phenomenon is in general, it's especially rife in tech/geek circles in my experience.

Aren't theories supposed to be falsifiable, or does that only apply to scientific theories?

Re: Quora: "How does a penniless entrepreneur attract gold diggers?"

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Post by [deleted] »

lionhearted wrote: post #19
stretchwithme wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we are driven by evolutionary forces.

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Matt's point is completely correct that we can transcend our biology, but it's a MASSIVELY powerful force and constantly underestimated by people. I think people just don't like the idea that the default behavior of most people is hardwired and unpleasant. Also, the HN crowd probably underestimates how much the average person makes knee jerk decisions based on evolutionarily-d…

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