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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#31

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

They'll be announcing any time now that their next high end Macs will hit 3 Ghz eh... 5 GHz... in a matter of months.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#32
post #21

Gave up on the mac pro years ago. I replaced my unkillable 2008 Mac pro with a lovely Fractal Design R5 case, a stonking 5930k overclocked at 4.5Gz on a 'posh' ASUS Mobo with 64GB of DDR. It's a 'hackintosh', sure enough, but it's fantastic. First time in 30 years I don't own a mac, that's telling. Their fault, too.

Where do you recommend for someone that wants to build one?

The TonyMac community has some great resources, including guides to the hardware:

https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/march/2017

There was also a great hackintosh discussion on HN a couple days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13901752

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#33
post #20

The world would be better served by Apple getting out of the hardware business and just selling OSX, allowing it to run on any x86 architecture without all of the Hackintosh bull. I don't understand who these people are that are spending a 50% premium on components that are two to three years old. I use a MBP regularly, but only because my work buys them.

macOS would suck if it ran on every kind of hardware. It's because it's all so tightly controlled that it works so great. Windows is not inherently bad. But the premise of it working everywhere means some trade-offs are made. Same for Android.

    it's all so tightly controlled that it works so great.
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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#34

The world would be better served by Apple getting out of the hardware business and just selling OSX, allowing it to run on any x86 architecture without all of the Hackintosh bull. I don't understand who these people are that are spending a 50% premium on components that are two to three years old. I use a MBP regularly, but only because my work buys them.

That might serve the world, but it wouldn't serve Apple at all

Except that the OS X GUI drives a lot of people crazy...

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#35

Gave up on the mac pro years ago. I replaced my unkillable 2008 Mac pro with a lovely Fractal Design R5 case, a stonking 5930k overclocked at 4.5Gz on a 'posh' ASUS Mobo with 64GB of DDR. It's a 'hackintosh', sure enough, but it's fantastic. First time in 30 years I don't own a mac, that's telling. Their fault, too.

Had you built a hackintosh before? Any major negative experiences with compatibility / updates?

I've built one before. Updates involved losing sound. To get it back run an installer and restart.

Odd kernel panics used to happen once every 3 months. Black text would scroll down the screen and you have to hard reset the system.

I would keep a legit backup around but the power/price ratio cannot be beat. I'm looking at building another soon.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#36
post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

You can run linux on the MBP. It's a pretty good combination.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#37

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Adding to my comment, I find very strange that they announced almost nothing tangible (the bump in the specs of the Mac Pro is not available yet in their web site, though I imagine it will be soon)

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#38

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Perhaps they're realising that they're potentially losing a lot of people, and are a way aways from shipping. Much better to announce some vaporware and encourage people to stick around, especially if they plan to deliver. Before now, people had little hope about either Pros or Macbooks.

They wasted an entire hardware iteration on the Touch Bar that hardly anyone cares about. That's what put them in this position. If anything is un-Apple about it, it's that they so badly understood the desires of their customers.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#39
post #14

What are the chances the new Mac Pro will simply be a smaller, higher-density form factor of the cheese grater Mac Pro? Also glad to hear the Mac Mini's not being killed off.

Not sure why it would need to be smaller, the Cheesegrater was exactly what I'd expect a Pro level machine to look like and I've never been an apple user, I just love that case. It's a pro level desktop, size (within reason) constraints aren't really an issue.

I agree. Bringing back the old design would immediately solve a lot of problems, but Apple won't do that. Even with a new redesign, I assume the system will still be designed to accommodate standard-sized GPUs and other add-in cards, unless Apple is going to use custom packaging, which is doubtful. That's why I guessed that they could potentially make the new Mac Pro smaller and have it sit on a desk instead of the floor, etc. Instead of the current cylindrical Mac Pro, it would go back to something box-shaped.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#40

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Just like the Mac Pro product line.
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