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Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

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I call it 'Ghosted'. Basically, you are talking, you both like each other and then suddenly you don't hear from the other person. I had a few companies ghost me and it was annoying. I don't entirely mind if I apply and just never hear back, I just get to laugh at them when they email me two months later asking for interview.

Lot of New York companies do this one.

Yep. That is where it was.

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

#32

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I accepted an offer at a subcontractor at Gulfstream once. Crazy process, including them demanding I send all kinds of crazy info including SSN via email unencrypted. Anyway, I spent several weeks asking them over and over when my start date was supposed to be, because eventually my soon-to-be employer's contract with GD was going to expire and I also wanted to give my current employer notice. After a couple of month…

The only thing that kept me going on this was excellent communication with both my new manager and HR. They guided me through the process and were very honest about where we stood and how I should answer ambiguous questions in the application. I was certain I would pass the background check but nonetheless it felt unnerving to let those other offers expire for something that was not really a sure thing. Also some of…

Hey guys, this guy has Secret Clearance!

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

#34

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I accepted an offer at a subcontractor at Gulfstream once. Crazy process, including them demanding I send all kinds of crazy info including SSN via email unencrypted. Anyway, I spent several weeks asking them over and over when my start date was supposed to be, because eventually my soon-to-be employer's contract with GD was going to expire and I also wanted to give my current employer notice. After a couple of month…

The only thing that kept me going on this was excellent communication with both my new manager and HR. They guided me through the process and were very honest about where we stood and how I should answer ambiguous questions in the application. I was certain I would pass the background check but nonetheless it felt unnerving to let those other offers expire for something that was not really a sure thing. Also some of…

What kind of background check costs $30k? Were they looking at past finances?

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

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In my job search, I've been surprised by how often you submit a resume online, and then you don't even get a rejection email. It's a true "black hole" in that you never hear back, not even with a "no thanks". I think it's disrespectful of candidates to ask them to spend time filling out an application, and then leave them hanging because you're (presumably) too lazy to read it.

I sympathize deeply with this sentiment. However, let's switch modes. Please suggest your solution for the problem of receiving 1,874 resumes for a job posting and, 42 days later, finding your likely candidate on the 244th candidate you reviewed.

Use an automated system to pick out keywords and phrases. Put first 25 in that stack aside. Send a rejection notice to everyone else. The issue is not finding a candidate, the issue is leaving everyone else hanging while you find that candidate.

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

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In my job search, I've been surprised by how often you submit a resume online, and then you don't even get a rejection email. It's a true "black hole" in that you never hear back, not even with a "no thanks". I think it's disrespectful of candidates to ask them to spend time filling out an application, and then leave them hanging because you're (presumably) too lazy to read it.

100%. The sooner you build a network and put yourself in a position to not have to apply to jobs the better.

This is true, but embedded within it contains a huge challenge for the industry. Hiring through people's networks and referrals has potential to really harm diversity.

Hiring is an expensive process by any measure. But whenever we find a shortcut we have to be mindful of unintended consequences

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

#37
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In my job search, I've been surprised by how often you submit a resume online, and then you don't even get a rejection email. It's a true "black hole" in that you never hear back, not even with a "no thanks". I think it's disrespectful of candidates to ask them to spend time filling out an application, and then leave them hanging because you're (presumably) too lazy to read it.

100%. The sooner you build a network and put yourself in a position to not have to apply to jobs the better.

That's not possible for everyone. Plus, I just landed my new job going through a recruiter. There are actually some good recruiters out there not just the typical used car salesman "an ass for every seat" types.

I'm helping a recent grad get some experience and have been trying to network for him. Introverted people have a tough time with things like networks.

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

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I have almost 10 years of experience and I've been looking for a job for the last year. I've sent applications to some companies, carefully selected and for which I'm 100% enthusiast about. I've sent custom cover letters, I've been studied the product and provided feedback and improvements. And still I don't deserve even an email saying that I've been rejected. With some companies I was exchanging email, providing al…

You don't depend on them. They depend on you. Always remember that wherever you work: they are renting your time, you are always working to better yourself. Keep staying positive and know there is an opportunity out there for you. Don't get discouraged!

IT workers are losing leverage in the US. Many have been offshored, and most remaining positions are being centralized to a handful of tech hubs in the country. It's good to not lose hope, but don't think as an IT worker, your have infinite leverage.

Re: Thanks for Submitting Your Résumé to This Black Hole

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing that kept me going on this was excellent communication with both my new manager and HR. They guided me through the process and were very honest about where we stood and how I should answer ambiguous questions in the application. I was certain I would pass the background check but nonetheless it felt unnerving to let those other offers expire for something that was not really a sure thing. Also some of…

Hey guys, this guy has Secret Clearance!

Nope ;) try again. It's similar but in a different silo.
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