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Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by 8draco8 »

xophishox wrote: post #4

I can say from my experience dealing with system76, they are hands down one of my favorite machine producers, for both laptops and desktops. I am trying to get some server units ordered from them for an upcoming test deployment for a new architecture we are working on and hope I can get buy in from the company to support someone other than dell or hp.

If you don't want to deal with HP or Dell just go to smaller server re-seller like https://www.ixsystems.com or buy Supermicro machine (which is basically what Dell is using) from someone like http://www.rackservers.com . Don't go with S76, they are just re branding machines, and not even high quality machines https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777649#13779002

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by tedunangst »

gbrown_ wrote: post #13
soperj wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Thinkpad X1 Carbon definitely has an ethernet port.

> No. Thinkpad X1 Carbon definitely has an ethernet port. Via an adapter...

Worth mentioning though it's simply a port adapter. Not a USB device or whatever. So it works for things like PXE boot, etc., and has performance identical to regular onboard Ethernet.

I've never been bothered by the adapter. It just sits there attached to the (thin) cable I always carry in my bag anyway.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by CalRobert »

shmageggy wrote: post #26
phaus wrote: post #10

Is this something new or is it another rebranded Clevo? The Galago Ultrapro they released a couple of years ago had amazing specs, but the keyboard had a design flaw they refused to fix properly. Some Clevos are OK, but many of them have design defects and/or poor QC.

If we are talking about the same machine, where the keyboard would just not register key presses about 5% of the time, they did eventually ship out free replacement keyboards to all owners.

Which was surprising, since their support line tried their damnedest to convince me that I just didn't know how to type. I never took them seriously after that.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by chrsm »

Over the past 4 years, I've bought two System76 machines (FD: work paid for them). Each time, I maxed out what I was able to get from them.

Initially I had wanted to support a company that sells Linux-supported devices.

My first machine - a Gazelle (laptop) - had numerous issues on arrival. It'd randomly crash. Keypresses would get stuck and repeat. It was annoying. After sending it in, I still had random issues until I installed Debian, presumably it was a kernel issue - but for it to be shipped like that..was just bizarre.

My newest machine, I purchased a Leopard (desktop). It had been a few years, and I figured perhaps they'd gotten better at things. I was wrong. They shipped this machine, knowing full well how long it takes to boot - again, due to some kind of kernel issue - it took over 2 minutes to go from cold boot -> login screen, USB devices would randomly not work, just weird stuff.. I put in a ticket, but nothing ever came of it. I didn't want to send this machine back like I had sent my laptop (TWICE), so I ended up switching OSes again, using an updated kernel, and things seem fine.

I get that they don't really have control over the kernel that comes with the OS they ship. I'm not naive. It's just a bit silly that they'd be comfortable shipping a new machine with those kinds of issues to the point where the machine is either unusable or stuff randomly stops working.

As far as the "physical quality" of the machines go, I'm still happy with both of them. They are well-put-together machines, IMO.

However, I know that my next machine is NOT going to be from System76. It's significantly cheaper to just get a nice Dell or something.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by bachmeier »

I've considered buying a System 76 laptop for years, but it's really hard to find satisfied customers. I'd be concerned if the reviews were largely positive but included a few from people with bad experiences - I don't want to be one of the unlucky few. That's not the case at all. There's almost unanimous agreement that these are poor quality machines.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by dragonwriter »

bobcallme wrote: post #5
eumoria wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but it is a fun comic jab at apple. ::zooms in on ethernet port::

You mean the ethernet port that will break off and the power button that is not recessed so it does not power on in your bag. Great. Who puts a power button on the side of a laptop?

> Who puts a power button on the side of a laptop?

Seems to be common on flip-style convertibles, because both tablet and tent configurations make keyboard-face access inconvenient.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by dom0 »

symlinkk wrote: post #18

> 13" HiDPI display Hope it doesn't need fractional DPI scaling, because as far as I know there is no desktop on Linux that supports it, while Windows has supported it for years.

"Fractional scaling" (I assume you mean e.g. 160 DPI instead of 200 DPI) is no problem even with the older KDE version from F23, just a bit finicky to get started up - but when it runs, it works. Gtk on the other hand seems (seemed? - I don't bother to check regularly) to be stuck at 100 %, 200 %, 300 %, ...

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by dudul »

I bought a Lemur 4 or 5 years ago and it served me very well. It still works and is somewhere in a drawer in case I need a Linux. The only thing I did on it was replace the battery after 3 years.

However, while I really really want to support a company that does Linux first, I think my next machine will probably be a Dell XPS. The quality of my System76 is not top notch, feels very cheap and a little bulky.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by sxldier »

mstefff wrote: post #23
2bluesc wrote: post #12

As a previous gen System 76 Galago and now a proud Dell Precision 5510 owner, I wish them luck! I traded my previous gen System76 Galago Pro after 2-3 years of being disappointed with build quality, battery life also piss poor BIOS support for a company priding themselves on supporting the hardware (i.e. UEFI had to be hacked in from the identical Clevo, next to no options, no TPM, etc). We need more competitors in t…

Same situation. Had a System 76 Lemur Ultra for 3 years and hated it after 6 months. The battery had to be replaced every 10-12 months. The build quality was appalling. Everything was falling apart. The finish and keys were coming off. HDMI never worked. WIFI problems every day. It was really a piece of garbage. I'd be embarrassed to sell those. Just got a Dell XPS 13 for about the same price I paid for the System 76…

> Just got a Dell XPS 13 for about the same price I paid for the System 76 piece of junk. It's an amazing computer.

How's your battery life? And with what kind of usage?

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by jaredandrews »

chrsm wrote: post #34

Over the past 4 years, I've bought two System76 machines (FD: work paid for them). Each time, I maxed out what I was able to get from them. Initially I had wanted to support a company that sells Linux-supported devices. My first machine - a Gazelle (laptop) - had numerous issues on arrival. It'd randomly crash. Keypresses would get stuck and repeat. It was annoying. After sending it in, I still had random issues unti…

I bought a System 76 desktop a couple years ago. I had extra $$ and like you, I wanted to support a company selling Linux devices.

Previously, I had used Ubuntu on multiple laptops that did not have "hand picked" hardware. I was used to having to fix things randomly after updates and just running into hardware issues from time to time.

I assumed that the selling point of System 76 was that because they chose the hardware with Linux in mind these things wouldn't happen.

Maybe it's a QA thing but I found that I was running into just as many issues on my Sys76 machine as my old laptop. Manageable, but really puts the value prop into question. It became difficult to justify the purchase over building my own PC or buying a pre-built machine from someone else.

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