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Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by fundamental »

jerf wrote: post #28
shams93 wrote: post #23

It's great on the pi3 runs well in arm. It's nice this isn't abandonware a lot of the open source projects for Linux audio became abandonware.

Do you happen to have a good reference on using the Pi3 for audio? I spent a lot of Saturday trying to make mine do some stuff, and while a lot of the technical snafus were the usual sort, I did end up burning a lot of time googling around until I finally found someone who suggested turning off CPU performance scaling. Which was a forehead slap moment for me after that, but, still, it'd be nice if there was somewhere…

You may want to check out some of the posts at https://autostatic.com/ and the forums for zynthian https://discourse.zynthian.org/ . If memory serves both sites focused on some of the version 2 revisions of the Pi, but they may also help with your board as well.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by flavor8 »

zevv wrote: post #21
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

For me a huge change the past years was the coming of Bitwig Studio audio workstation to Linux. Commercial software, but rock solid and high quality.

Do you have to jump through Jack shenanigans to get it working? Or does it just work, nicely?

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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zevv wrote: post #21
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

For me a huge change the past years was the coming of Bitwig Studio audio workstation to Linux. Commercial software, but rock solid and high quality.

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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by flavor8 »

fundamental wrote: post #27
shams93 wrote: post #23

It's great on the pi3 runs well in arm. It's nice this isn't abandonware a lot of the open source projects for Linux audio became abandonware.

Yeah, the number of single developer projects combined with developer attrition has certainly orphaned a ton of linux-audio projects.

It would be nice if Ubuntu pruned dead / barely working products from their repos. There's an astonishing number of frustratingly bad audio apps in their main repo.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by baldfat »

donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

EZDrummer, and the other examples are a different beast. Those are sample based drum plugins. They are made to sound like real acoustic drums. They are great and wonderful.

This is a pastern based drum machine for non-acoustic sounding drums (Usually). So you are comparing two different tools.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by k-mcgrady »

peapicker wrote: post #19
k-mcgrady wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most DAWS might have drum machines but most serious users end up using a third party product. The built-in ones are undeniably good but thinks like Kontact/EZDrummer etc. are on another level.

Never used Kontact or EZ Drummer, but seems like it would be hard to beat Ableton Live Suite's combo of drumracks and stacking effects per drum sample... Do you have experience with both? Any reason I should look into the former when I've invested in the latter? edit: Nevermind, after looking at Native's offering (Kontact), I can see it has a lot of advantages for a certain kind of music, but that isn't the music I'm…

I use Ableton and Logic and their built-in drum software often. They're both very good. When you want to program super real sounding drums EZDrummer and especially Kontact are unbeatable (and as another comment mentioned Kontact has libraries for much more than just drums). For me the reason I like contact is that the mixing interface for each element in the kit is really easy to use and tweak. Besides that the samples are phenomenal. Another option that may be more relevant to you is NI Battery [0]. Personally I just like to experiment with different options as I find that the simple fact of working in a different UI will result in different creative output.

[0] https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/drum...

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by yellowapple »

dyeje wrote: post #7

I've checked out Hydrogen a few times, but have been turned off by clunkiness in the UI each time. I'd rather use an web based one for quick one offs or just boot up my DAW for something more in depth. That said, it's a nice little tool if you're not willing to shell out for a DAW.

The typical workflow for Hydrogen is to turn a whole desktop session into your DAW, building it from the ground up with your own selection of tools.

I've dreamed of doing something like that for awhile, but at the end of the day it's almost always easier to just reach for a self-contained DAW.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by baldfat »

flavor8 wrote: post #32
zevv wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me a huge change the past years was the coming of Bitwig Studio audio workstation to Linux. Commercial software, but rock solid and high quality.

Do you have to jump through Jack shenanigans to get it working? Or does it just work, nicely?

I don't care what OS your on. When you start talking about latency it is all a nightmare. If latency isn't an issue then Pulse Audio works totally fine.

I actually like Jack when it is concerning latency and think it is a good system. BUT it is a pain.

I used 2 separate sound cards. One is a Pro level I/O breakout box that Jack controls and the on board sound card is controlled by PulseAudio.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by diminish »

donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer

When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

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