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Re: Ask YC: Do you think Rich Internet Applications (Adobe FLEX, MS Silverlight) are going to take off?

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Post by Flemlord »

gruseom wrote: post #21
s3graham wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? You write CLR code, and much of the library you expect in those languages is available. I think that's what he means.

Sure, but the devil is in the details. I'd like to know more. Assuming the Silverlight VM is not the same one that .NET apps run on, how did they do it? Did they port the CLR to a browser environment? Is it the full CLR? Does it support the full C# language? How does integration with the browser environment (dom/javascript) work under the hood? How did they get it working on different browsers? Are they completely se…

It supports the full C# language and many of the component libraries. Silverlight is essentially a plug-in that can run in any browser, and there are extensions for different operating systems. (Apple and Linux soon.)

Re: Ask YC: Do you think Rich Internet Applications (Adobe FLEX, MS Silverlight) are going to take off?

#32

Post by gruseom »

Flemlord wrote: post #31
gruseom wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but the devil is in the details. I'd like to know more. Assuming the Silverlight VM is not the same one that .NET apps run on, how did they do it? Did they port the CLR to a browser environment? Is it the full CLR? Does it support the full C# language? How does integration with the browser environment (dom/javascript) work under the hood? How did they get it working on different browsers? Are they completely se…

It supports the full C# language and many of the component libraries. Silverlight is essentially a plug-in that can run in any browser, and there are extensions for different operating systems. (Apple and Linux soon.)

Thanks for responding. Are you using it for serious development? Have you learned anything interesting about its DOM/Javascript integration?

I ask because for the problem I'm working on, a full Silverlight app wouldn't make sense; but if it were possible to use the Silverlight plugin to work around some of the bottlenecks we've encountered for Ajax development, I'd be interested. Given that most of the bottlenecks have to do with rendering in the browser, though, I imagine this is a long shot.

Re: Ask YC: Do you think Rich Internet Applications (Adobe FLEX, MS Silverlight) are going to take off?

#33

Post by marketer »

gruseom wrote: post #21
s3graham wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? You write CLR code, and much of the library you expect in those languages is available. I think that's what he means.

Sure, but the devil is in the details. I'd like to know more. Assuming the Silverlight VM is not the same one that .NET apps run on, how did they do it? Did they port the CLR to a browser environment? Is it the full CLR? Does it support the full C# language? How does integration with the browser environment (dom/javascript) work under the hood? How did they get it working on different browsers? Are they completely se…

Microsoft has 3 or 4 implementations of the CLR: normal, compact, micro, and silverlight. Each has different requirements, but I'm not sure how much code is shared.

If you implement a CLR interpreter, by definition you support C# and any other IL languages.

Re: Ask YC: Do you think Rich Internet Applications (Adobe FLEX, MS Silverlight) are going to take off?

#34

Post by Flemlord »

gruseom wrote: post #32
Flemlord wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It supports the full C# language and many of the component libraries. Silverlight is essentially a plug-in that can run in any browser, and there are extensions for different operating systems. (Apple and Linux soon.)

Thanks for responding. Are you using it for serious development? Have you learned anything interesting about its DOM/Javascript integration? I ask because for the problem I'm working on, a full Silverlight app wouldn't make sense; but if it were possible to use the Silverlight plugin to work around some of the bottlenecks we've encountered for Ajax development, I'd be interested. Given that most of the bottlenecks ha…

I'm about to use it for serious development. We're planning on using it exclusively so I haven't paid much attention to how well it will integrate with Java. My feeling is that we'll be able to develop a much richer front-end in Silverlight in less than half the time it would take in Java/Ajax. Plus we won't get weird lags and delays, and we can do more extensive multi-threading type stuff.

Re: Ask YC: Do you think Rich Internet Applications (Adobe FLEX, MS Silverlight) are going to take off?

#35

Post by gruseom »

Flemlord wrote: post #34
gruseom wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for responding. Are you using it for serious development? Have you learned anything interesting about its DOM/Javascript integration? I ask because for the problem I'm working on, a full Silverlight app wouldn't make sense; but if it were possible to use the Silverlight plugin to work around some of the bottlenecks we've encountered for Ajax development, I'd be interested. Given that most of the bottlenecks ha…

I'm about to use it for serious development. We're planning on using it exclusively so I haven't paid much attention to how well it will integrate with Java. My feeling is that we'll be able to develop a much richer front-end in Silverlight in less than half the time it would take in Java/Ajax. Plus we won't get weird lags and delays, and we can do more extensive multi-threading type stuff.

What kind of app are you developing? I'm not asking for proprietary specifics, just wondering what it generally is, and what makes you think Silverlight is a good fit for its UI (in addition to development time).
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