The technology is definitely there (and it can be done in many ways); I recently came across researchers/musicians using the self-organizing properties of slime molds to create music: https://vimeo.com/163427284
Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
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Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#32To me the demo was a bit bland.
What it really needs is the ability to add cues, similar to how ML painting programs are now giving you the ability to define areas of a photo/painting (this is sky, this is water, etc).
If you could say I need 30 seconds of uplifting music for my trailer but here are the 3 places where things are fast paced and here is the point that is shocking, the AI could in theory accommodate that into one piece that aligns with your already assembled visuals.
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#33Hey guys... Drew from Amper here. Thanks for the feedback!
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#34Where's the AI? At best, it looks like they use a pre-trained algorithm to generate output based on a few inputs. Similar to the deep dream visual effects Google was generating a while back.
Amazon's recommender systems adjust dynamically, based on what users buy. Google's handwriting recognition is learning every time you select the correct choice and continue with your next scribble. How does this learn anything?
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#35Do anyone know why music, video or basically media service|app have the dark theme like PS, LR, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc. ?
Skeuomorphism is also completely out of control in the music tools business (not in this particular example, but, it's super common in VSTs and the like). Which has really dumb effects when used on a 4k laptop display, since it's rarely subject to the OS scaling, because it's got its own UI lib.
I don't know why dark and ugly is the norm in media manipulation tools. But, I find it annoying (mostly just hard to read, due to too-low contrast), and often switch to a lighter theme if it's available in the tools I use.
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#36$4M would pay for a lot of mediocre human composers to produce a lot of mediocre music.
I understand the value proposition here and it's neat technology, I just think it might still be a little bit early for millions to be pouring into the field. Every example I've heard of "AI music" has been some level of failure. But, maybe they just need a few million dollars to throw at the problem, and it'll go away.
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#37Hey guys... Drew from Amper here. Thanks for the feedback!
Drew,
Most of the sample tracks on SoundCloud are 30 second in length. Is the platform capable of creating longer 2-4 minute songs right now?
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#38We can't automate filling out Excel spreadsheets, but investing 4 million dollars in automating music creation. Meanwhile there are plenty of CC-licensed tracks and plenty of aspiring composers/producers who would gladly work on creating tracks for "commercials or short online videos" for very reasonable price.
We can automate filling out of Excel spreadsheets. See flash fill : https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-AutoFill-and-Fl...
Those are pretty handy features, but they are not nearly enough. I know plenty of people who spend several hours a day entering, validating and fixing data in giant Excel spreadsheets because they need to work with multiple systems that don't have real integration points. That work is mind-numbingly boring and completely avoidable. (Besides, system integration is also rote work, only one level up. I know plenty of engineers whose only job is to constantly write adapters between various web services.)
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#39$4M would pay for a lot of mediocre human composers to produce a lot of mediocre music. I understand the value proposition here and it's neat technology, I just think it might still be a little bit early for millions to be pouring into the field. Every example I've heard of "AI music" has been some level of failure. But, maybe they just need a few million dollars to throw at the problem, and it'll go away.
I dunno, I've heard Al Biles and his GenJam[1] autonomous accompaniment play, and it's actually pretty good. On par with most small time performers, at least. (Though maybe the synth could use some higher quality samples.) Also probably not technically AI, I imagine, but since a NN is just a generic function approximator, its conceivable a musician AI could imitate this improvisation.
Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music
#40Do anyone know why music, video or basically media service|app have the dark theme like PS, LR, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc. ?
I think there's a subtle evocation of a "studio" context in dark UIs: Professionals tend to associate dim lighting with a control room, an editing suite, or something along those lines. I don't know why these spaces are traditionally dim, though I'd assume it's something to do with reducing glare on equipment displays.