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Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by cmdrfred »

creichert wrote: post #15
dfar1 wrote: post #4

That and the fact that any app you download now adds you to their newsletter list. Just because I wanted to try your app, it doesn't mean I want to get tons e-mails from your company. It's so frustrating I stopped trying apps, and instead only download what I really need and/or trust.

Have you ever tried to make a business out of selling an app online or in an app store? How did you get users? I definitely don't agree with "tons" of e-mails but a few promotional emails is understandable. I also don't agree with the tactics used in the article, to be clear.

I just use a spare domain as a catchall in the form of "servicename@domain.com" then ban that address if it gets too chatty.

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by kalleboo »

farnsworth wrote: post #22
glandium wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you have to trust them with the very thing you want them to stop abusing. "Fun" fact: I register on sites with addresses like "address-suffix@domain", with a different suffix for different sites. I won't name names, but I now receive viagra-level spam to several of them, which reasonable people would expect to be able to trust. haveibeenpwned.com confirms that one of them, off the top of my head, was part of a b…

Why not name names? Let's name and shame companies that are either selling your info or hiding breaches.

I got spam to a email registered with Microsoft.

A company I worked for got its email list leaked when the email service they used was breached. The email service posted a "we're investigating" in a blog post on a blog that was soon mysteriously deprecated/taken down.

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by chris_7 »

creichert wrote: post #15
dfar1 wrote: post #4

That and the fact that any app you download now adds you to their newsletter list. Just because I wanted to try your app, it doesn't mean I want to get tons e-mails from your company. It's so frustrating I stopped trying apps, and instead only download what I really need and/or trust.

Have you ever tried to make a business out of selling an app online or in an app store? How did you get users? I definitely don't agree with "tons" of e-mails but a few promotional emails is understandable. I also don't agree with the tactics used in the article, to be clear.

Why is the company's inability to get users my problem? Those emails get flagged and placed in spam, where they belong? Spam is never "understandable". Get an (explicit, non-dark-pattern) opt in or you're spam.

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by creichert »

chris_7 wrote: post #33
creichert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever tried to make a business out of selling an app online or in an app store? How did you get users? I definitely don't agree with "tons" of e-mails but a few promotional emails is understandable. I also don't agree with the tactics used in the article, to be clear.

Why is the company's inability to get users my problem? Those emails get flagged and placed in spam, where they belong? Spam is never "understandable". Get an (explicit, non-dark-pattern) opt in or you're spam.

Do you consider signing up to use an app with your email opt-in?

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by chris_7 »

creichert wrote: post #34
chris_7 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is the company's inability to get users my problem? Those emails get flagged and placed in spam, where they belong? Spam is never "understandable". Get an (explicit, non-dark-pattern) opt in or you're spam.

Do you consider signing up to use an app with your email opt-in?

Absolutely not. I flag those as spam.

Unless it's an email notification from the service because of an action someone took... those are okay but I'd prefer them to be off-by-default.

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by Veratyr »

laughinghan wrote: post #12

> They are able to do this because sears.com loads Criteo code and uses a criteo.com cookie > there may not be much you can do about this besides blocking cookies Most browsers let you block 3rd-party cookies without blocking all cookies (in this case, blocking the the criteo.com cookie but not the sears.com cookie, when on sears.com): https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-third-party-cookies-c...

There are also addons like uMatrix (https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix) which allow you to selectively block cookies by domain. By default it loads a bunch of ad blocking stuff too but you can turn that off if you really want.

Re: Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam (2016)

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Post by inetknght »

> The CAN SPAM act actually allows direct marketing email messages to be sent to anyone, without permission, until the recipient explicitly requests that they cease (opt-out).

Ladies and gentlemen, let's get this fixed. Spam is not only a waste of resources (bandwidth, time, and money) but it also contributes to malware distribution.

What will it take to accomplish this?

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