So, why does anyone pay attention to the truly awful human being known as Peter Thiel? Between his plots to destroy the infrastructure that allowed PayPal and Y Combinator to be built, and his active attempts to rip away rights from other LGBT people, of which he is one, it seems like a poor idea to pay this person any mind.
How Peter Thiel’s Palantir helped expand the NSA’s global spy network
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#32As far as I can tell, there's no new "technology" in whatever product Palantir offers (I have briefly used it before?). It seems to me that it's just a program for data visualization, which given that the government is one of their customers, is quite the grifting of the public.
People feel other CEOs would have held back from using data collection for such drastic political means. Thiel wouldn't, and may have created the business to accomplish his political dreams.
We all try to influence society through government by voting with our feet, voice, and wallet. Thiel just happens to have a much bigger wallet, and his political agenda is pretty extreme compared to the laws that are followed today.
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#33What about ex president Obama who actually used the tech? So much outrage for Thiel, but where were the protests when Obama wiretapped the world? Ps. I think Thiel is a hypocrite if he really thinks himself as libertarian. Also, despite having money and power I think he has big balls to go against SV where he made himself. I also don't understand how did he became so powerful, every time he talks.. He has charisma of…
It was literally one of the biggest reasons people aside from Republicans disliked his tenure.
There were a ton of protests against mass surveillance around the time of the whole Snowden fiasco, and even the Oscars recognized Citizenfour, which critisised Obama for massively expanding mass surveillance.
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#34Most comments here seem to hate Peter Thiel, but when it comes to Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Page (all whom seem to be in bed with governments since a long time and worked with Hillary Clinton's campaign staff), well there's nothing wrong there because democrats are the good guys, right? What would you do in their place? They don't make the rules. Government does, and you vote for government. So don't try…
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#35What about ex president Obama who actually used the tech? So much outrage for Thiel, but where were the protests when Obama wiretapped the world? Ps. I think Thiel is a hypocrite if he really thinks himself as libertarian. Also, despite having money and power I think he has big balls to go against SV where he made himself. I also don't understand how did he became so powerful, every time he talks.. He has charisma of…
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#36I just don't understand how he can call himself a libertarian. Self-rationalizing has no ends.
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#37So, why does anyone pay attention to the truly awful human being known as Peter Thiel? Between his plots to destroy the infrastructure that allowed PayPal and Y Combinator to be built, and his active attempts to rip away rights from other LGBT people, of which he is one, it seems like a poor idea to pay this person any mind.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
American libertarianism is about excluding the government from as much as you possibly can. Mass surveillance of a states citizens if practically the antithesis of that.
I never understood the mentality that unchecked power is only unacceptable when wielded by a government. For example, it's wrong for the government to surveil all its citizens but fine for a private company to do so, even if the end result makes life just as untenable (e.g. unable to get a job/housing because of credit checks, get access to healthcare because of pre-existing conditions). Given the trajectory of Ameri…
I'll also point out that your comments about libertarianism seem to be misguided. Libertarians are the first to defend constitutional rights, because those rights include core, fundamental libertarian tenets, such as freedom of speech, religion, and the press.
I don't consider myself a libertarian, but I don't like seeing them mischaracterized.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are some of his active attempts to rip away LGBT rights?
He voted for a Republican .
Also, I'm not saying you came across as generalizing, I know you were making a joke, but a lot of people actually do think this way.
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#40Most comments here seem to hate Peter Thiel, but when it comes to Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Page (all whom seem to be in bed with governments since a long time and worked with Hillary Clinton's campaign staff), well there's nothing wrong there because democrats are the good guys, right? What would you do in their place? They don't make the rules. Government does, and you vote for government. So don't try…