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Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by WildUtah »

misterhtmlcss wrote: post #27
bryanlarsen wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The venues from the 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary are forming the basis of their 2026 bid, so they must still be in good shape.

We hosted the only Olympics in history that I've heard of that turned a profit. I live in Calgary and we still talk about how unique it was compared to other Olympics around the world. There are definitely some winners post-Olympics, but honestly I don't think they make sense anymore. Seems that Olympics has gone down the wrong path in so many ways with the demands from the IOC requiring bigger and bigger budgets, pr…

The 1984 LA games apparently turned a profit as well.

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by lmm »

StevePerkins wrote: post #21
lhopki01 wrote: post #4

There are many articles about abandoned Olympic venues but I've never seen one about successful former Olympic venues. I'd like to see what happened to all the venues in London and Beijing. From my bit of knowledge a lot of the London ones were temporary or have been successfully transitioned.

Atlanta has always felt snubbed by hostility from the IOC, who didn't like the level of private corporate sponsorship used to fund the 1996 Games (nevermind that two decades later, it would be considered modestly quaint today). However, it was overwhelmingly a successful Games. It created a lasted economic boom, and much of the construction saw continued use or was repurposed afterward. Today, Atlanta is not really r…

It's remembered as a publicity stunt for Coca-Cola, no?

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Post by cbernini »

emondi wrote: post #7

Starts with a bad example. The maracaná is from the 1950 world cup, also used last world cup.

Not exactly. It wasn't the same stadium at all. The original Maracanã received something around 1.2 bi BRL (387.55 mi USD if we consider today's rate) in order to receive the Olympic games. Sergio Cabral' (former RJ governor) prision was motivated (among other things) because of that

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by woliveirajr »

emondi wrote: post #7

Starts with a bad example. The maracaná is from the 1950 world cup, also used last world cup.

It was a good deal from 1950 up until the last world cup. The stadium had to go through a great change for the 2014 world cup, and some other reforms for the 2016 olympic games. The costs of it (including corruption) didn't pay off and now the stadium is a completely mess.

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by jessaustin »

StevePerkins wrote: post #21
lhopki01 wrote: post #4

There are many articles about abandoned Olympic venues but I've never seen one about successful former Olympic venues. I'd like to see what happened to all the venues in London and Beijing. From my bit of knowledge a lot of the London ones were temporary or have been successfully transitioned.

Atlanta has always felt snubbed by hostility from the IOC, who didn't like the level of private corporate sponsorship used to fund the 1996 Games (nevermind that two decades later, it would be considered modestly quaint today). However, it was overwhelmingly a successful Games. It created a lasted economic boom, and much of the construction saw continued use or was repurposed afterward. Today, Atlanta is not really r…

For me the thing that comes to mind most readily is the FBI screwing up and accusing that one poor dude of setting that bomb...

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by saalweachter »

Would it negatively impact the Olympics if we stopped rotating them at this point? I mean, besides the IOC missing out on the opportunity compete with FIFA on graft?

Let's just locate the Olympics in a permanent facility -- Greece, if they'll have them, for tradition. I think between "not rebuilding everything from scratch every four years" and the expectation of recurring events, the single host country could both run the games more efficiently and it would benefit the economy a lot more -- sure, it'd only benefit the one host country, but it would be going from "not benefiting a lot host countries (who go over-budget and never make back the money on tourism)" to "actually benefiting one host country".

Let the IOC auction off the opening show if you want to give one country a chance to show off every four years.

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Post by MomentarySanity »

lhopki01 wrote: post #4

There are many articles about abandoned Olympic venues but I've never seen one about successful former Olympic venues. I'd like to see what happened to all the venues in London and Beijing. From my bit of knowledge a lot of the London ones were temporary or have been successfully transitioned.

Lake Placid, NY still uses the Olympic venues. A lot of winter athletes train there.

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by bigmanwalter »

lhopki01 wrote: post #4

There are many articles about abandoned Olympic venues but I've never seen one about successful former Olympic venues. I'd like to see what happened to all the venues in London and Beijing. From my bit of knowledge a lot of the London ones were temporary or have been successfully transitioned.

The Beijing Olympic swimming pool is now a water park!

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by Joakal »

oliyoung wrote: post #19
docdeek wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression was that Sydney also did well with it’s infrastructure after the games. Maybe a result of a sports-hungry public?

The main Olympic park is about 45' outside of the CBD, but it's regularly used. All the football codes (plus more) use the main Olympic Stadium, the surrounding venues are regularly in use too https://www.olympic.org/news/sydney-s-olympic-venues-provide...

Olympics in Sydney was a money pit. An expensive legacy. I'm not sure if the events followed since then had allowed recovery.

http://theconversation.com/hosting-the-olympics-cash-cow-or-...

http://economicstudents.com/2016/09/road-ruin-economic-case-...

There are actually a lot of academic studies now into the Sydney 2000 Olympics economics. Quite interesting.

Re: Post-Olympic Abandonment

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Post by Joakal »

roystonvassey wrote: post #23

'Average overrun for Games since 1960 is 156% in real terms' [1]. On the whole, costs of hosting Olympic Games is a net-negative for most cities. I think it isn't as popular as it once was in attracting tourists; soccer world cups are probably better for that. Given that this is the case, they should just fix one host city/country and host the Olympics only there. It will save unnecessary expenses, especially for dev…

Politicians talk of lasting legacy but a lot of studies pretty much showed that no one wants to hang around once the Olympics is over. So, to recover the cost, maybe they need to host a really long Olympics?
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