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Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by pharrlax »

sampl wrote: post #15
koolba wrote: post #8

It's impressive that only a quarter of the links are affiliate links.

Could someone explain the hate for affiliate links? Maybe I'm just being naive, but as long as there's no suspicion of ratings bias, I'm fine with them. Ex: I've used thewirecutter.com recommendations for home supplies--and I'm happy to give the creators a kickback for their effort (at no cost to me).

They're looked down upon becayse they're associated with questionable "review" sites that are essentially grey-hat SEO-gaming schemes.

I don't think this site qualifies though. There's nothing wrong with affiliate-linking an unbiased head-to-head comparison.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ams6110 »

Be very careful using a "free" tier on any email service if you care about reliable delivery. These are naturally utilized by people sending spam, so the mail servers used by the free tier plans tend to get a low(er) reputation. I had this issue with Mailgun, which otherwise is a fantastic service.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ngrilly »

arihant wrote: post #25

Fairly disappointing list. No GC in hosting list, even with generous free tier on App Engine, Firebase and other services. No DigitalOcean. No Azure. On e-mail front, no SendGrid and Mailgun, even with their generous free tiers. No Cloudflare. CI as category is ignored. 1&1 makes it, but GoDaddy, Gandi, and others don't.

You read too fast: Digital Ocean, Mailgun and CloudFlare are mentioned (you just need to click on the tabs to make them appear).

But I agree that App Engine and Gandi could have their place in this list.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ggregoire »

For my SaaS (pre-launch) I chose to go full AWS (BeanStalk, RDS, S3, CF, Route53, ACM, SES) + GitLab (4 private repos: front, back, deployment scripts, website).

Total costs: $24 (2 domain names)

I still need some monitoring and logging tools but I'm sure there are free solutions for my needs.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ngrilly »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #18
pastaking wrote: post #16

The whole google cloud platform doesn't get enough cred. Would be nice to add it to the list.

+1 You can run a fairly decent amount of traffic on free-tier App Engine

I agree, but it really misses a free tier for the SQL database (similar to Heroku Postgres limited to 10k rows for example).

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ploggingdev »

arihant wrote: post #25

Fairly disappointing list. No GC in hosting list, even with generous free tier on App Engine, Firebase and other services. No DigitalOcean. No Azure. On e-mail front, no SendGrid and Mailgun, even with their generous free tiers. No Cloudflare. CI as category is ignored. 1&1 makes it, but GoDaddy, Gandi, and others don't.

> 1&1 makes it, but GoDaddy, Gandi, and others don't.

Godaddy? They use shady tactics to mislead customers, their service is pretty bad and they are an overall unethical company. I would never recommend them.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ploggingdev »

ams6110 wrote: post #32

Be very careful using a "free" tier on any email service if you care about reliable delivery. These are naturally utilized by people sending spam, so the mail servers used by the free tier plans tend to get a low(er) reputation. I had this issue with Mailgun, which otherwise is a fantastic service.

Just curious so can you explain what was the issue you faced using the Mailgun free plan? I have used their free plan in the past and never faced issues with reliable delivery and the emails were never marked as spam.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by linkmotif »

ams6110 wrote: post #32

Be very careful using a "free" tier on any email service if you care about reliable delivery. These are naturally utilized by people sending spam, so the mail servers used by the free tier plans tend to get a low(er) reputation. I had this issue with Mailgun, which otherwise is a fantastic service.

Mailgun has a whole FAQ type thing about sharing IPs vs getting dedicated. They kind of claim an opposite/divergent thing from what you write. They say using shared as you build domain reputation can help because you pool with more established senders. Did you find that not to be true? Are there many spammers in that pool? Should I just go dedicated right away?

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ams6110 »

ploggingdev wrote: post #37
ams6110 wrote: post #32

Be very careful using a "free" tier on any email service if you care about reliable delivery. These are naturally utilized by people sending spam, so the mail servers used by the free tier plans tend to get a low(er) reputation. I had this issue with Mailgun, which otherwise is a fantastic service.

Just curious so can you explain what was the issue you faced using the Mailgun free plan? I have used their free plan in the past and never faced issues with reliable delivery and the emails were never marked as spam.

This was about 8 months ago -- had never used Mailgun before. I was seeing nearly 30% "dropped" messages (rejected by receiver due to sender reputation). They did move me to another IP which worked much better, but the first impression on users was already made. I didn't push it too much because after all I wasn't paying for it so didn't really have much standing to complain.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by niftich »

This is pretty slick with useful information presented in easy-to-compare form. The hardest part is going to be keeping the info up to date.

As others have mentioned, some pretty big-name offerings are missing despite being surprisingly capable. I use Google App Engine's free tier for some hobbyist-level hosting because it gives me full control over the incoming and outgoing HTTP request in an autoscaling PaaS, which is very convenient, but it also cuts off with 503s if my quota is exceeded and I won't get a nasty bill at the end of the month for stuff I can live without.

A little while ago I made an Ask HN [1] that didn't get much traction where I described all the desirable features I wanted, to seek an alternative for Google App Engine. Is there a comparable Paas/FaaS that has a free or cheap tier, and a no-cost quota cutoff?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13504712

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