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Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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"After disclosing two distinct hacks late last year, one of which implicated a billion users, Yahoo ..." This is a weird place to use implicated as it makes the reader think those billion users are to blame for the hack. If that's true, it's a human-scale DDOS - no IoT devices needed.

Grammatical error, along with many others in the article. Nothing sinister about it.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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Has anybody ever seen Y! Confidential link pop-up in the bottom right corner of some Yahoo! articles which seemed to redirect to an internal corporate site? It came and went away at least a dozen times and in some instances it stayed for days.

https://www.google.com/search?q="Y%21+Confidential" Certainly lots of very confused people keep seeing it.

Most of the answers seem to suggest this is some sort of tracking or malware. It is not but you still shouldn't be seeing it. That is only suppose to be seen by Yahoo employees and the internal links are there so they can report bugs easily. It's also present on betas but shouldn't been seen on the outside. It looks like somebody messed up and let it go to prod without having an employee check.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"virtually none implement proper security on such large deployments." Can you provide a citation for this? Otherwise it seems you are suggesting because Yahoo was lacking that this means all SV tech giants are lacking.

Well, without ndas make it hard to find actual reports, but take ashley-madison. Millions of users, talk of a billion-dollar ipo, and the post-hack report by the canadian and austrailian privacy ministers found they had no formal security plan.

So you can't actually substantiate your claim that "virtually none implement proper security".

I am not sure why you think that mentioning a second incident makes your statement true for the majority of tech companies.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#34
Dear Yahoo user,

We are writing to inform you about a data security issue that may involve your Yahoo account information. We have taken steps to secure your account and are working closely with law enforcement.

What happened?

In November 2016, law enforcement provided Yahoo with data files which a third party claimed was Yahoo user data. We analysed this data with the assistance of external forensic experts and found that it appears to be Yahoo user data. Based on further analysis of this data by the forensic experts, we believe that an unauthorised third party stole data associated with a broader set of user accounts in August 2013, including yours. We have not been able to identify the intrusion associated with this theft. We believe that this incident is likely distinct from the one that we disclosed on 22 September 2016.

What information was involved?

The stolen user account information may have included names, email addresses, telephone numbers, dates of birth, hashed passwords (using MD5) and, in some cases, encrypted or unencrypted security questions and answers. Not all of these data elements may have been present for your account. The investigation indicates that the stolen information did not include passwords in clear text form, payment card data or bank account information. Payment card data and bank account information are not stored on the system that we believe was affected.

What we're doing

We are taking action to protect our users: We are requiring potentially affected users to change their passwords. We invalidated unencrypted security questions and answers so that they cannot be used to access an account. We are constantly enhancing our safeguards and systems that detect and prevent unauthorised access to user accounts. What you can do

We encourage you to follow these security recommendations: Change your passwords and security questions and answers for any other accounts on which you used the same or similar information used for your Yahoo account. Review all of your accounts for suspicious activity. Be cautious of any unsolicited communications that ask for your personal information or refer you to a web page asking for personal information. Avoid clicking on links or downloading attachments from suspicious emails. In addition, please consider using Yahoo Account Key, a simple authentication tool that eliminates the need to use a password on Yahoo altogether.

For more information

For more information about this issue and our security resources, please visit the Yahoo Account security issues FAQs page available at https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_AU&page=content&y=.... Protecting your information is important to us and we are constantly working to strengthen our defences.

Yours sincerely,

Bob Lord Chief Information Security Officer Yahoo

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, without ndas make it hard to find actual reports, but take ashley-madison. Millions of users, talk of a billion-dollar ipo, and the post-hack report by the canadian and austrailian privacy ministers found they had no formal security plan.

so according to your logic, one massive hack means all sites are insecure ?

No.. working as a compliance attorney, along with all the industry contacts that entails, allong with a steady stream of reports such as the OP (also target et al) gives me grounds to say that proper security is not an industry norm, that the opposite is more likely.

In doubt? Ask around for how many organizations have a dedicated ciso or privacy officer.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#36
post #10

"After disclosing two distinct hacks late last year, one of which implicated a billion users, Yahoo ..." This is a weird place to use implicated as it makes the reader think those billion users are to blame for the hack. If that's true, it's a human-scale DDOS - no IoT devices needed.

Grammatical error, along with many others in the article. Nothing sinister about it.

Implicate has a negative connotation in common usage, and for that reason probably isn't the best choice, but it really just means "entwine." In that more traditional sense, the wording makes sense, it is saying they were caught up in the hack.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so according to your logic, one massive hack means all sites are insecure ?

No.. working as a compliance attorney, along with all the industry contacts that entails, allong with a steady stream of reports such as the OP (also target et al) gives me grounds to say that proper security is not an industry norm, that the opposite is more likely. In doubt? Ask around for how many organizations have a dedicated ciso or privacy officer.

And Yahoo the company we are discussing has a full time CISO, now at Facebook:

http://www.businessinsider.com/alex-stamos-leaves-yahoo-to-b...

As does Google: http://www.csoonline.com/article/2928798/security-leadership...

As does Twitter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcoates

as does Uber: https://newsroom.uber.com/joe-sullivan-joining-uber-as-first...

As does Apple: http://www.reuters.com/article/apple-encryption-executive-id...

As does Amazon: https://www.rsaconference.com/speakers/stephen_schmidt

So I would say its pretty common. Just because its not common at the Ashley Madisons and Targets doesn't mean its uncommon elsewhere.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#38
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Remember that if you deleted your account the last time a breach was reported, DO NOT attempt to login to that account to check, as this will reset the decativation window of 90 days before permanent deletion. I made that mistake last time, "deleted" my yahoo account when there was a breach, promptly forgot about doing that, then about 75 days later another breach was announced, so I logged in to "delete" my account.…

I'd recommend deleting all content associated with the account and removing the address from any third party site (recovery etc). I would however never actually delete the account. My concern with deleting the account is that it exposes you to some really nasty impersonation attacks. It is free to keep. Just keep it.

I don't know about Yahoo, but most services will not allow to reregister a previously deleted account.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No.. working as a compliance attorney, along with all the industry contacts that entails, allong with a steady stream of reports such as the OP (also target et al) gives me grounds to say that proper security is not an industry norm, that the opposite is more likely. In doubt? Ask around for how many organizations have a dedicated ciso or privacy officer.

And Yahoo the company we are discussing has a full time CISO, now at Facebook: http://www.businessinsider.com/alex-stamos-leaves-yahoo-to-b... As does Google: http://www.csoonline.com/article/2928798/security-leadership... As does Twitter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcoates as does Uber: https://newsroom.uber.com/joe-sullivan-joining-uber-as-first... As does Apple: http://www.reuters.com/article/apple-encryption-exe…

Lol, that is like 1% of the industry. For every facebook there are 100s of smaller shops with websites taking money and handling pii. Being not-facebook doesnt mean you arent in the big leagues with millions of customers.

Re: Yahoo hack warning: What happened and should you be worried?

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post #30

Remember that if you deleted your account the last time a breach was reported, DO NOT attempt to login to that account to check, as this will reset the decativation window of 90 days before permanent deletion. I made that mistake last time, "deleted" my yahoo account when there was a breach, promptly forgot about doing that, then about 75 days later another breach was announced, so I logged in to "delete" my account.…

I'd recommend deleting all content associated with the account and removing the address from any third party site (recovery etc). I would however never actually delete the account. My concern with deleting the account is that it exposes you to some really nasty impersonation attacks. It is free to keep. Just keep it.

I agree. The act of deleting the account isn't even a guarantee that the data associated with the account will be deleted.
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