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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

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Post by oh_sigh »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

Here's a start: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_wor...

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#32

Post by azernik »

zzalpha wrote: post #13
dmitrygr wrote: post #6

Why is it that every little single-purpose-at-best company nowadays acts like they are out to save the world in the most noble way possible? Mark, please! You're a spam-your-friends-with-fake-news-and-baby-photos service at best. The world will go on long after Facebook ceases to exist. Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here.

It's the tech delusion. I don't know a start-up that doesn't have some grandiose vision of themselves as the future saviors of humanity. Uber, Tesla, Facebook, Airbnb, you name it... it's all the same "save the world" rhetoric. The scary thing is, I think a lot of people on the industry actually believe their own BS...

At least Tesla's one thing is inherently important because of the climate change implications.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#33

Post by kinghajj »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+missionary+position+hitc...

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#34

Post by dopamean »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

I read somethings years ago about how she didn't allow the hospitals that she oversaw use pain medication for some religious reason. There were also claims that she personally profited off of her likeness. I can't recall if any of those claims were credible however.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#35

Post by dreen »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

Not OP, don't think she was, but her image is very controversial due to her questionable ethics. There is plenty of material about this on the internet.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#36

Post by __s »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#37

Post by dopamean »

paganel wrote: post #25

> The algorithm prioritizes what it shows a user based, in large measure, on how many times the user has recently interacted with the poster and on the number of "likes" and comments the post has garnered. FB has changed so much for the better for me since I've joined an AutoRetro group featuring cars at least 25 years old and since I've started like-ing that group's posts. Now almost half of my feed is filled with p…

This sounds a lot like what I tell people who don't like using reddit. I love using reddit because I follow the subs that are related to my interests and as a result I find a lot of really, really awesome content. I think if you approach a massive social network as a passive or casual user you will be subjected to worst that network has to offer.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#38

Post by taejavu »

simplehuman wrote: post #30
devwastaken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here. The funny part is that Mother Teresa wasn't a good person, but made a lot of money from her image of nicety. I think its the same way with these individuals who are trying to act 'noble'. The most noble thing you could do is bring consumer trust back and invest into people. I would argue that a lot of problems that companies have, like when Tim Cook was going ar…

Mother Teresa wasn't a good person? That's news. Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens wrote a book and spoke extensively on that topic. Here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JxnUW7Wk4

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

#39

Post by nostrademons »

zzalpha wrote: post #13
dmitrygr wrote: post #6

Why is it that every little single-purpose-at-best company nowadays acts like they are out to save the world in the most noble way possible? Mark, please! You're a spam-your-friends-with-fake-news-and-baby-photos service at best. The world will go on long after Facebook ceases to exist. Please stop pretending that you're Mother Teresa here.

It's the tech delusion. I don't know a start-up that doesn't have some grandiose vision of themselves as the future saviors of humanity. Uber, Tesla, Facebook, Airbnb, you name it... it's all the same "save the world" rhetoric. The scary thing is, I think a lot of people on the industry actually believe their own BS...

It's much easier to do hard or risky things (and convince others to do hard things) if you believe that doing so will save the world.

Whether it's true or not, it's a useful illusion. People who believe that it's all meaningless tend to sit on message boards and shit on others instead.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's manifesto for Facebook offers a social dystopia

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Post by oldsj »

azernik wrote: post #32
zzalpha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the tech delusion. I don't know a start-up that doesn't have some grandiose vision of themselves as the future saviors of humanity. Uber, Tesla, Facebook, Airbnb, you name it... it's all the same "save the world" rhetoric. The scary thing is, I think a lot of people on the industry actually believe their own BS...

At least Tesla's one thing is inherently important because of the climate change implications.

Yea I have to say Elon's actions seem to really be for the overall benefit of society unlike most other tech / business leaders
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