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Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by vmorgulis »

delegate wrote: post #28

Apart from having a framework/service for funding open source projects, we need about the people who develop the dependencies used in those projects. Project maintainers should have the ability to 'forward' part of the received donation to other projects - without which the project wouldn't have been possible. Which contributors, which dependency and how much to share - these questions are best answered by the projec…

I'm thinking of something automated.

For example, it's possible to gather some metrics of the usage of libraries from a running process (with strace, google perftools, source maps in javascript...).

It can be a process used by a real user or autotests from the project.

A software could monitor those probes and allow the user to reward the dependencies that:

- use less CPU or energy

- use less memory

- contains less bugs

- ...

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by fundamental »

akavel wrote: post #9

Editorial notes: The questionnaire seems to be missing "desktop (GUI) apps" and probably "mobile apps" in "What you'd pay for?" section. Also, the "time/effort" was weird for me; I don't feel it matches "funding" which sounds like money to me — or I didn't understand what it's intended to mean. Some general thoughts: On a related note, personally I don't like paying until I tried an app. But then OSS apps often ask f…

+1 to "desktop (GUI) apps". I've been maintaining one project since 2009 and from what I've seen, it's pretty rare for desktop applications to receive proper funding. They're generally not a great target for corporate funding and they often end up being very incomplete as developers run out of spare/interested time. It doesn't help that for the GUI side of desktop applications there can be a huge amount of time spent on trying to get the UI/UX right.

I've even tried to fund some work on the open source application I maintain, but I haven't been able to get anywhere close to minimum wage for it. Other open source applications in the same space seem to have the same issues with crowdfunding.

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by fundamental »

brilliantcode wrote: post #32

Would love to know the results of this, I'm currently trying to get http://letsopensource.com up and running.

What's the scope of letsopensource? It's not clear what the website intends to do from the one page that's there.

If it's another crowdfunding website what makes it different and more likely to succeed compared to others?

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by brilliantcode »

fundamental wrote: post #34
brilliantcode wrote: post #32

Would love to know the results of this, I'm currently trying to get http://letsopensource.com up and running.

What's the scope of letsopensource? It's not clear what the website intends to do from the one page that's there. If it's another crowdfunding website what makes it different and more likely to succeed compared to others?

Good questions and I don't have answers for them as of now, will do a Show HN thread in the coming weeks to get some initial feedbacks.

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by kaspm »

willnorris wrote: post #29

There's no indication in the questionnaire of who is actually running it, what is being done with the data, whether results will be published and where, etc. Does anyone have more info? Right now, this just looks like a black hole.

Agreed, without some context as to who is behind this survey I am reluctant to fill it out.

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by mack1001 »

mack1001 wrote: post #15

A while ago I did a concept study called http://opensourcebay.io to create a marketplace for open source services. This approach in my mind provides the most viability for maintainers/service providers and for people who inevitably need services/training/features. Unfortunately I did not have the initial traction nor the resources to continue on this path.

FYI want to be clear that I am not plugging my site. I have pretty much abandoned it due to lack of traction.

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by cabalamat »

vmorgulis wrote: post #31
delegate wrote: post #28

Apart from having a framework/service for funding open source projects, we need about the people who develop the dependencies used in those projects. Project maintainers should have the ability to 'forward' part of the received donation to other projects - without which the project wouldn't have been possible. Which contributors, which dependency and how much to share - these questions are best answered by the projec…

I'm thinking of something automated. For example, it's possible to gather some metrics of the usage of libraries from a running process (with strace, google perftools, source maps in javascript...). It can be a process used by a real user or autotests from the project. A software could monitor those probes and allow the user to reward the dependencies that: - use less CPU or energy - use less memory - contains less b…

If it's automated it will probably be gamed.

Re: Open-source Funding and Support Questionnaire

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Post by vmorgulis »

cabalamat wrote: post #38
vmorgulis wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking of something automated. For example, it's possible to gather some metrics of the usage of libraries from a running process (with strace, google perftools, source maps in javascript...). It can be a process used by a real user or autotests from the project. A software could monitor those probes and allow the user to reward the dependencies that: - use less CPU or energy - use less memory - contains less b…

If it's automated it will probably be gamed.

Yes but as it is open source everybody will know who game what.
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