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A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
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Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#32I've heard that many times but I wonder if it's true. The article cites studies but I didn't bother to check the studies themselves. It cites some contemporary anecdotes but I didn't bother to check if they were accurate. It seems to confirm my experience so I'll accept it as reasonable. The article is clearly trying to put Trump in a bad light and other comments here are applying it to other politicians and corporat…
How many times have you heard it? If a lot of times, then I guess it isn't true.
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#33I wish once people realised this, they had the courage to apply this to their own dearly held beliefs, particularly political or social ones - how many of those are just lies repeated ad nauseum that clearly aren't true? But I think most peoples reaction is just to say "Yeah! that's totally what those other people do that our side never does because we're right.".
>But I think most peoples reaction is just to say "Yeah! that's totally what those other people do that our side never does because we're right.". to guard against this, as soon as i am aware of a catchphrase or common talking point, i mentally deconstruct it and find the truth. frighteningly, the most commonly repeated verbiages are, should we say, misleading. but lean a little closer, stranger, and i'll whisper the…
> but lean a little closer, stranger, and i'll whisper the truth into your ear: the "two sides" are unequal in their abilities for evaluative thought, self righteous zealotry, and dogmatism. an honest attempt at critical evaluation will go nowhere if your evaluating apparatus is garbage.
The very fact that both sides are convinced there are two sides suggests this is a false statement. The "sides", really the false divisions and classifications, are some of the biggest lies ever told. In any case, any inequality between them is not the problem. By way of analogy, if two glasses of water have unequal amounts of fecal matter with neither being even close to zero, wouldn't it be better not to drink either of them rather than suggest one is better than the other?
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#34If you think that this is something limited to what evil Trump is doing, you are a fool and you don't understand yourself or the world around you at all.
Of course it isn't just him, he's just the most visible and powerful such example.
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#35"It's not a lie if you believe it." --George Costanza
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bear in mind that this is contemporary writing. They likely wrote it in such a way with the goal of forming this comparison in your mind. I think one needs to look at older writings to get a take that isn't designed to reinforce the constructed media narrative du jour. Even then its hard to get decent info on this topic because its always been so morally charged. Nothing obscures reality worse than moral concerns. Ed…
And yet they didn't single out a specific figure, nor did the poster above. As you say, there may well be more than one party someone might apply this description to. Apparently a specific comparison formed in your mind, though, for some mysterious reason. Probably just "constructed media narrative du jour," right? Certainly not because the person might actually be a quintessential example that stands out from everyo…
It's not that great of a leap for the person you are replying to because "Hitler" and his supporters have been called nazis since the summer of 2015 and every comment connected to him inevitably turns into a discussion about neo-Nazis.
It's pretty clear who was being referring to.
concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it
If we really want to get picky it's worth pointing out that the person we aren't mentioning attacks multiple people at the same time and lies about little things all the time.
Said person is a jackass and an authoritarian but to compare him to a regime that killed millions using the loosest historical analogies does them a disservice and muddies the water.
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#37Repetition makes lies seem true, but repetition also makes truth seem true. All persuasion (and indoctrination) happens through repetition, whether in a classroom setting, a forum like this one, or in sales. This realization is also deeply depressing, because it means you're doomed to repeat yourself over and over if you want to persuade people. Let's take Noam Chomsky for instance. He gives more than a hundred talks…
> This realization is also deeply depressing, because it means you're doomed to repeat yourself over and over if you want to persuade people.
Yes. Embrace this.
Patience is a virtue; and not getting angry because the person you've stated something to doesn't get it even the third time you've stated it. I actually find it fun to try and come up with different ways to state things such that people might better understand it.
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#38"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."…
DOes this sound 100% like the Democratic Party to anyone else?
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#39>Hitler's rules sound vaguely familiar. I don't think comparing Hillary to Hitler is that appropriate.
Can I ask you a question? Are you trolling or what are your aiming here? Now it's of course downvoted to oblivion, but I'd like to know why even here, amongst smart people, we go down into so cheap comments and even try to defend changes that will eventually make lifes of people like me a living hell.
He has a different opinion from you, what's so hard to understand?
Re: A glitch in the human psyche that equates repetition with truth
#40>Hitler's rules sound vaguely familiar. I don't think comparing Hillary to Hitler is that appropriate.
Can I ask you a question? Are you trolling or what are your aiming here? Now it's of course downvoted to oblivion, but I'd like to know why even here, amongst smart people, we go down into so cheap comments and even try to defend changes that will eventually make lifes of people like me a living hell.
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