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FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Meanwhile, AT&T launched a traffic shaping program in December called Smart Stream that mobile customers are automatically opted in to. The program downgrades videos watched on their network to 480p quality.

That sounds similar to the T-Mobile scheme that the FCC had already concluded was permitted.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Pai is a very strange character. He was general counsel for Verizon, which is typical for regulatory capture stooges as far as career choices go, but worked for Jenner & Block, who's primary public record is heavily left-leaning. He's an Obama appointee, but on the recommendation of McConnell. My guess is that Jenner & Block probably fronts a lot of left-leaning legal cases outside of their bread & butter, which is t…

> He's an Obama appointee, but on the recommendation of McConnell.

By law the FCC can have no more than three of the five Commissioners from the same political party, so it is quite normal for a President to appoint two Commissioners from the major party that the President is not a member of. It is not required, but I believe most or all Presidents (so far...) have picked their "not my party" appointees by asking the other party's Senate leadership who to nominate.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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To everyone panicking in this sub, please remember that the communication from washington is that they want this to be fought at the state and local level. So, please engage your representatives about this.

   communication from washington is that they want this to be fought at the state and local level

... isn't a good result, at all (if you care about net neutrality)

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simple solution is actual democracy: one person, one vote. Whoever wins the popular vote wins the White House. Now if only we had a president in office who lamented what a travesty the electoral college was, and how it should be done away with ...

It really doesn't matter very much what opinion the President has of the electoral college, the President doesn't have much say in the matter. Perhaps the President could use their position to push for change, but that would be the extent of it.

I'm aware that it would require a constitutional amendment to get rid of it. Was just taking an easy jab at his absolutely blatant hypocrisy between 2012 and 2016.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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post #31

To everyone panicking in this sub, please remember that the communication from washington is that they want this to be fought at the state and local level. So, please engage your representatives about this.

communication from washington is that they want this to be fought at the state and local level ... isn't a good result, at all (if you care about net neutrality)

I didn't say it was. My point is that you need to talk to your local representatives, because Washington is putting it on them right now. This includes your congressman and senators.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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so, I'm still in favor of NOT Net Neutrality. Specifically, I think the system is rigged through the telecommunications act, but that the FCCs process for "fixing" it with NetNute was an attempted end run around bad legislation from decades ago. Hopefully this will promote self-organizing mesh providers. There is (or will be) money to be made in cheap, fast, unfiltered internet.

How are you laying the infrastructure, microwave transmitters or otherwise?

sure, towers I guess. maybe some clever company will float it on kites/balloons/wings/copters/microsats.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

communication from washington is that they want this to be fought at the state and local level ... isn't a good result, at all (if you care about net neutrality)

I didn't say it was. My point is that you need to talk to your local representatives, because Washington is putting it on them right now. This includes your congressman and senators.

fair point, I just thought it deserved calling out as a blow to NN.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Is there any way, as a citizen and consumer, to stop Pai? Or get him fired from FCC? Will writing Congress help?

Nope. Not unless you can show that he did something a)unethical, b) immoral or c) illegal. Since he gets to define legality through what the FCC dictates, within reason, he can't really violate c on a policy level. If you got a and/or b, please let us know. You can even leak that information. In general Congress has to pass a law declaring the ISPs utilities. Then net neutrality is a good thing. The problem is that n…

Alternatively, congress can pass laws that would define net neutrality and enforcement... but good luck with that.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Meanwhile, AT&T launched a traffic shaping program in December called Smart Stream that mobile customers are automatically opted in to. The program downgrades videos watched on their network to 480p quality.

So long as they do that with all videos regardless of source, what's the problem? It's annoying, possibly, but it doesn't really restrict the open flow of information that made the Internet great.
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