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Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

BadassFractal wrote: post #18
octonion wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being a racist jackass makes you "liberal"? Is that a "fact" or an "alternative fact"?

Islam is a religion, not a race. Being an illegal immigrant is a form of legal status, not a race. Calling someone a racist every single time we disagree with them is part of the problem.

> Islam is a religion, not a race. ... Calling someone a racist

Statement: "Since Islam is a religion and not a race, Islamophobia is not racism" That sounds logically true, but in your heart you know it's false.

> Calling someone a racist every single time we disagree

"every single time we disagree" is more misdirection in this context.

Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by Veratyr »

matt4077 wrote: post #17
temarsden wrote: post #8

What does this have to do with hacker news?

Hackers are people, my friend.

So are all the other people on earth. There are other outlets for general interest news. The appeal of HN to me is that it's limited specifically to tech-related news.

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Post by davidf18 »

Under the British Mandate of The League of Nations Britain was obligated to allow Jewish immigration to what is now Israel. In fact originally Hitler wanted European Jews to go there.

But the British broke their mandate with "The White Paper" in 1939 which severely limited Jewish immigration to their land.

If America had run the mandate instead of the British there probably would not have been The Holocaust and many millions more Jews would be alive today in Israel including presumably Anne Frank.

See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939

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Post by lucb1e »

temarsden wrote: post #8

What does this have to do with hacker news?

I figured it was related to yesterday's "First they came for the Iranians" post that got >900 points.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13489156

Something like: we are banning people again, history repeats itself... but I didn't actually read the article (comments first) so I might be wrong.

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Post by w00tw00tw00t »

Saudi men committed the terrorist act of 9/11 and the Orlando shooter was of Afghani origin. But Trump banned people from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Yemen & Sudan. What kind of logic is that?

I disagree wholeheartedly with the idea that the United States of America should ban people based on their country of origin. That is UnAmerican. But I do find the above illogical and very fishy.

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Post by gcp »

dwightgunning wrote: post #4
siculars wrote: post #2

Among other folks as well [0]. Of note, the US was not the only country to turn away refugees during WWII. Also of note, from what I've read, refugee immigration has been temporarily halted from certain countries with the exemption being refugees from minority religions in those countries. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

I also read the same regarding minority religions. Although the price I saw was only citing a draft of the executive order. I wonder when, they haven't already, publish the final version. The countries to which the bans apply are all majority Muslim, so the exemption would apply to non-Muslims.

majority Muslim

There's various ideologies of that, and some of that are aggressive (repressive) towards the others, which is exactly what is leading to refugee problems in Europe. Is the law going to paper over that difference?

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Post by akjainaj »

redsummer wrote: post #38

Number of Syrian refugees let in to Israel: ZERO And it's right next door.

They know a thing or two about basic security and cultural hygiene, unlike most of Europe. I suppose Europe will only learn that after hundreds of rapes and dozens of trucks running over innocent people.

Talk about self-destructive behaviour...

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Post by Quarrelsome »

redsummer wrote: post #38

Number of Syrian refugees let in to Israel: ZERO And it's right next door.

While I'd concede the point; its pertinent to national security that not many neighbouring countries are very fond of them. So I can imagine why the level of immense paranoia being applied here.

Tragically allowing refugees in is the sort of action that might convey the goodwill necessary for Israel to find a diplomatic home in the Middle East but alas; short-termism wins out.

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