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The Relationship Between Skyscrapers and Great Cities

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Re: The Relationship Between Skyscrapers and Great Cities

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The history of tall buildings is that of huge egos. Sure, market forces cause rational developers to build more density when land prices are high... but not skyscraper high. The risk is too significant. The existence of these monoliths, in my opinion, is best explained by psychology, not standard economics.

Can any economist here explain why skyscrapers are a bad idea?

Not an economist, but it's said in the article, skyscrapers tend to be expensive per "m2 of usable floor space". One reason for this is purely mechanical, the building must be much sturdier in order carry its weight. Also, a bigger fraction of the interior space is taken up by elevator shafts. Both of these contribute to lower usable floor space and thus higher expense.

Then there's also the question of the environment of the building, roads/mass transit/etc. also place a limit on how high the density in an area can be.

IIRC some of the highest density urban areas (in the developed world) are not terribly high, e.g. city centres like Paris or Barcelona where buildings are ~10 stories or so.

Re: The Relationship Between Skyscrapers and Great Cities

#32
post #8

I know this is focusing on details, but there is no Ann Arbor, WI. The article copied over the typo from the study. Confusing. I wish the study explained why they chose the 12 cities they did. Also their populations do not match the census like they say they do, I am left to question any validity this study has.

"A data center was burned to the ground after misplacing Ann Arbor, Michigan in Wisconsin. Reports say that 'Hail to the Victors' could be heard in the distance, along with murmuring about how 'Wisconsin isn't really hand-shaped'."

(Satire)

Re: The Relationship Between Skyscrapers and Great Cities

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post #27

Equating skyscrapers only with supertalls (200m+) is pretty misleading. For example, both Sydney and Singapore are currently experiencing massive skyscraper booms, but they don't appear on the charts because they're "only" in the 150m range. Also, the "cities" are poorly defined. Tangerang is a suburb of Jakarta and should be counted as such, while Mandaluyong is in Manila. I suspect the same applies to a number of t…

> Tangerang is a suburb of Jakarta No it's not? It's true that the cities are basically connected by urban sprawl, but administratively it's definitely a separate entity. A case could be made that it's part of Greater Jakarta but that's a pandora's box of definitions and interpretations...

Tangerang is the "ta" in Jabodetabek, which for all practical purposes is a single massive conglomeration.

https://goo.gl/maps/CAHXuiCDtQw

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