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This is how you hustle

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Re: This is how you hustle

#31

I feel the OP likely may have been duped by an automated message that was setup to send during status issues or Tweets to a company's customer support representatives. I've sent some Tweets to customer support before (threatening to leave) that were "loved" by a competitor within seconds.

I hope the OP does realize that. Perhaps it's just the thought to put out a bot that scans twitter and sends such automated emails? The bot may take active effort to script, so there is at least some "hustling" going on.

It wasn't, I emailed him back right away and we ended up exchanging multiple emails in a very brief period of time. Either that or chat bots are smarter than most humans these days.

Re: This is how you hustle

#32

Interesting that the user that submitted this article is a spammer buying votes. Have comment karma farmers found their way to HN?

'spammer buying votes'

Wait, so posting your own writing counts as 'buying votes'? It was something I enjoyed writing, apparently to be pure I should never tell others when I write something?

'comment karma farmers' The intense bitterness makes it seem that you have an irrational devotion to who gets your imaginary internet karma.

Re: This is how you hustle

#34

> I sent them a Tweet to ask them to please resolve the issue. Before they even responded to me, I suddenly had this email in my inbox How did the Company that was trolling their Competitors' twitter account have access to this guy's email address?

I'm guessing that they looked up the domain, saw the email associated with it and then emailed me directly.

Re: This is how you hustle

#35
Hello Everyone,

Instead of responding to comments individually I wanted to make one comment (and one comment only) to the responses to this article.

This is ONE of many strategies PeoplesHost employs to acquire customers. To address some questions or concerns others have mentioned in the comments made earlier:

- The blog post is authentic. Jack is someone we reached out to earlier today. He responded by complimenting the hustle and giving him inspiration to write that blog post.

- This is a manual human process and not automated or in bulk. Monitoring social media is a very tedious and timely process that we do on a daily basis.

- Yes, there are many who disagree with this approach as well as many who don't. We receive an equal share of people who respond in a positive light as well as those who call us ambulance chasers.

- Yes, no (hosting) company is perfect. Every hosting company will experience some sort of outage, disk failure, etc. at some point in time. It's inevitable and we understand that. When an event like this occurs, the web hosts should communicate and be honest with their customers base, which often times isn't the case. Customers are given the run around, canned responses, and shown a facade on social media that support is actually responsive when in fact all other support channels (live chat, phone, and tickets) the customer is left hanging where the public eye doesn't see.

Many of the vocal people we reach out to on social media are people who aren't receiving the support they deserve as a customer. These customers are taking to social media channels because they're receiving no updates or responses to their requests; it's their last resort to motivate their current provider to help them. For example, tickets going left unresponded to for many days. That's unacceptable and customers deserve better service. Many times, these customers are on their last string and ready for a move.

We understand that many of these targeted people run their businesses online and it's their livelihood. This is our livelihood too and we truly show our customers that we value them and their business..we wouldn't exist or be in business if it weren't for our customers. We've built a solid foundation of customers and built the company off the premise of exceptional and personal support.

- Some will see it as spam and others won't. We target these customers online who are 1) publically pleading/crying for help 2) have their domains listed on their profile and 3) have no private registration on their domain. This allows us to find their information in the public WHOIS database (again, it's a manual and timely process) and reach out via email, twitter, or directly on their website’s contact form.

- We are not desperate and have a very healthy customer base. Our reviews speak for themselves.

- Many of you may or may not know how competitive the hosting landscape is or how the industry works. Larger conglomerates (I won't name names) spend upwards to $200+ to acquire shared hosting customers via paid search, affiliates, and reviews.

Generally speaking, most consumers don't understand that the "review" sites they trust and rely on are getting paid $200+ for any referral sent to the hosts listed on their top 10 charts. These charts are solely based on who (which hosting company) is willing to pay the most for a referral and/or which host converts the best earning that review site or affiliate the most commission. We simply thought of a new way to target customers in a way that doesn't break the bank.

With that said, it is very enlightening to see other's thoughts on the subject in a public forum.

Re: This is how you hustle

#36
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the comment was a sly way of insinuating that the original blog post may or may not be 100% authentic.

I also wondered whether the blog post might be native advertising.

Can you tell me how I can get people to pay me to write articles on my personal blog? So far I've mainly written about my interests in machine learning and science, but as a graduate researcher an extra source of income would be great /s

Re: This is how you hustle

#37
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is spam by the US definition?

I agree with this site about it: https://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/ The key here would be unsolicited (yes) and bulk (possibly no). It is impossible to tell based on the blog post, but I find it less likely that there was a bot designed to find customers after a rival outage than a human doing it. If there was a bot however, that would be spam. I think many people on here would agree that it is annoying an…

Something can be bulk and spam without being automated.

Re: This is how you hustle

#38

Not a huge fan of this to be honest. From my perspective as a user, I don't want businesses I have no involvement with contacting me out of the blue. It's not quite spam, but I would treat it largely the same. I'm also unsure that it's a good long term strategy for the business. It may generate some customers, but building a customer base on people who have A) shown themselves to be relatively fickle in choosing a ho…

> I don't want businesses I have no involvement with contacting me out of the blue. It's not quite spam... Unsolicited email from parties you have no involvement with is spam by definition. And note to spammers and marketers on HN, I know I'm abusing my spam filters, but if I see emails from parties I don't recognize because " I subscribed for updates to one of their partners " (or some other bullshit explanation lik…

The easiest way of killing spam is to hit the spam-button in Thunderbird. Spam is always spam and I have more fun things to do than find some unsubscribe button. That will only mark my email as active and give a better price when selling it further.

Re: This is how you hustle

#39
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also wondered whether the blog post might be native advertising.

Can you tell me how I can get people to pay me to write articles on my personal blog? So far I've mainly written about my interests in machine learning and science, but as a graduate researcher an extra source of income would be great /s

I should have clarified that I looked around your blog and based on the other in-depth content there, I figured it was a genuine post. It was just that my first impression was that this might be native advertising -- which says more about how the rest of the internet is nowaways as opposed to anything about your writing style or blog content.

Re: This is how you hustle

#40
This is how you turn e-mail to crap - not how you hustle.

If they had tweeted to him back or DM him (i.e. used the same medium as him) then I understand. Sending unsolicited e-mail that capitalizes on a competitors stumble just makes you look petty IMO. Also, people should want to consume your service because they LIKE what you do more than your competitors not because you are pouncing on another's misery to flog your own thing.

Please do not encourage this kind of behavior by writing blog posts about hustle.

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