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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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On Windows, the page title is "Opera Neon concept browser for Windows". Maybe rename to [for Mac and Windows]?

On Linux, it says for Windows too, with no mention of the Mac version (and presumably no Linux version exists)

I guess they just have an `echo (if os == mac then "Mac" else "Windows")`

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

I used Vivaldi for a couple of months. Plenty of goodness, and one major showstopper: it's slow. It's so very sluggish and slow. Something as trivial as tearing a tab off a window would take several seconds. Switching between tabs was laggy as well, once there were many. Every other browser felt blazingly fast after that. That's a pity since this type of issues usually indicates some deeper design problems that won't…

Really? I'm on Vivaldi right now and everything is instant. I'm using it over Firefox just because how much faster it is. It's as fast as Chrome for me.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Very basic (no extensions and thusly no adblocker, no LastPass, no mouse gestures etc.), but it's a concept version, I get it. Certainly worth considering as a light-weight browser number 2 for me. I like it as a fresh take at browser UX design that's been more or less settled for a while now.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Chrome is semi-stagnant because it's dominant, which means not much drive to change.

I wouldn't call Firefox stagnant. It's just got E10S (multiprocess). The Quantum project promises to gradually improve both speed and stability (and consequentially security). They are working on replacing the traditional Firefox extensions archetecture with WebExtensions. Fennec (Firefox on Android) is an underappreciated gem.

I'm playing with Vivaldi now. It's nice, it's fast, there's a fair amount of UI innovation. But underneath, it's just Blink, so it's hard for me to get that excited about it.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Interesting bubbly new browser! Just the blog post says: "Some new features you won’t have seen in a browser before: (...) A vertical, visual tab bar on the right side of the browser window that makes it easier to distinguish between tabs." Really? I use it everyday in Vivaldi Browser :)

And it was in "their" own Opera 12 as well.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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If you want to download it while using another OS you can actually use their download link and just edit the last part of the URL string with the destination OS name.[1]

I've actually tried from windows using the 'mac' parameter and it actually downloads .dmg extension, I don't think there's a linux version at the moment.

[1]: http://www.opera.com/computer/thanks?ni=stable_neon&os=mac

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Ahh, the paradox of being the market leader.

Remember when Chrome tried to innovate with how we use bookmarks? [1]

People cry out for innovation, but then freak out when said innovation happens. This is why disrupters are so successful - they can do something crazy and people will try it out and think - this is amazing. Because the mindset/psychology is that this is something new. But the market leader implements exactly the same thing and people won't give it a chance because it's a change and they can't handle change.

But I actually disagree that they are stagnant. They may be hesitant to change the UI, but there is a lot happening under the hood to make them more secure, faster, standards compliant, stable etc.

[1] http://www.omgchrome.com/new-bookmark-manager-chrome-disable...

Edit - Adding an example of recent Firefox innovation being rejected https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/hello-status

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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If you want to download it while using another OS you can actually use their download link and just edit the last part of the URL string with the destination OS name.[1] I've actually tried from windows using the 'mac' parameter and it actually downloads .dmg extension, I don't think there's a linux version at the moment. [1]: http://www.opera.com/computer/thanks?ni=stable_neon&os=mac

Yes I read their blog about it they do not release linux version.
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