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The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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Why would you need to sign in if you're already in your gmail? Not to say there's anything obviously wrong, one could easily go there. It does point out a major problem. Email used to be text only. Then we added attachments that needed to be saved as a file and read with whatever app. Then we went to automatically displaying attached images and having live HTML links. All of these things we do for convenience make th…

> Why would you need to sign in if you're already in your gmail? Not to say there's anything obviously wrong, one could easily go there.

I can't tell you why, but I'm pretty sure it happens - I have a recollection of having to reauthenticate every few weeks or so when opening a Google Drive attachment from my Inbox window. So I would not be surprised if I saw a login screen after clicking on such an "attachment".

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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I reported this a back in March 2016, and Google said it was not an issue.

Analysed whole attack here: https://gist.github.com/timruffles/5c76d2b61c88188e77f6

This was the response I got:

> The address bar remains one of the few trusted UI components of the browsers and is the only one that can be relied upon as to what origin are the users currently visiting. If the users pay no attention to the address bar, phishing and spoofing attack are - obviously - trivial. Unfortunately that's how the web works, and any fix that would to try to e.g. detect phishing pages based on their look would be easily bypassable in hundreds of ways. The data: URL part here is not that important as you could have a phishing on any http[s] page just as well.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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I nearly fell for this attack if it weren't for my email address on the fake Google login not being autofilled. That made then look at the URL, and my ultrawide monitor revealed a cunning URL that had some white space padding to hide the real URL.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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post #19

The only two things that I think could have prevented me from falling for this is: I don't have images loaded by default for unknown senders, and LastPass wouldn't match the domain and therefore wouldn't show the button to autocomplete on the password box. Depending on how observant I'd be at the moment, I might check the URL bar and see something fishy. But I could fall for this, which is worrying.

"I don't have images loaded by default for unknown senders"

Does this just prevent the display of images which require fetching from a remote URL, or does it also include images which are embedded in the email as attachments?

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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I reported this a back in March 2016, and Google said it was not an issue. Analysed whole attack here: https://gist.github.com/timruffles/5c76d2b61c88188e77f6 This was the response I got: > The address bar remains one of the few trusted UI components of the browsers and is the only one that can be relied upon as to what origin are the users currently visiting. If the users pay no attention to the address bar, phishin…

That's a real shame. There are certainly things they could do to prevent images looking quite so similar to UI elements.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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That's scary. Would having 2FA enabled on your Gmail account protect you from this kind of attack?

Not necessarily. Depends on how sophisticated the attack is implemented. They are MITM'ing you at that point, so it's entirely possible to not only capture username/password but also the 2FA token.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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post #21

I'm surprised that with Google's image detection technology that Gmail doesn't do image recognition on images with links where the image look like popular document attachment, and send them to spam. Or perhaps they do but the phishers are able to evade it.

They aren't using popular attachments. They are using customized attachments from the actual compromised sender. I commented elsewhere in the thread, but once they gain your credentials, they will go into your account to get one of your attachments, and then email a screenshot of that to your contacts, some of whom may have already seen that attachment.

Sure, but the chrome around the image is still "trusted attachment" chrome.

I get it that the browser ppl will say only their chrome is trusted, but when someone is using your app, your app's internal ui affordances receive that same level of trust in your users' minds.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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The aim of EV certificates is to reduce such risks and highlight to the user the legitimacy of such websites.

HTTPS alone only provides encryption. Google doesn't use EV anywhere but I feel it should on login pages especially given it is a high phishing target.

Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack

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Thanks for sharing this - this is fiendishly clever. Even with all the investment in infosec, we're still woefully unprepared to deal with this type of attack. We need to start thinking about new approaches to protect users.

It's a hard problem but the industry isn't doing as much as it could do. There's low hanging fruit that has gone unharvested for years at most big companies.

1. Reform the browser address bar. Safari does this right. Chrome, IMHO shamefully, does not. The address bar is completely ignored by a large fraction (I've read it's about 25%) of users because it's full of meaningless technobabble. These users navigate entirely by sight. Weak sauce changes like making some of it light grey instead of black makes no difference. The usability nuclear holocaust that is the browser address bar is in my view THE leading cause of phishing because it's rendered users unable to identify who they are talking to when they submit data via the web. The address bar should show the domain name only, or the EV identity when that's present, and the browser industry should adopt practices to push usage of EV SSL everywhere. Only EV SSL is a feasible approach to get the actual, legal, verified identity of a server operator on the users screen in a reliable and scalable way.

2. The big networks need to lead by example and adopt EV SSL, see above.

3. Kill re-authentications dead. Google was talking about this internally around the time I was working on the account system there, but I don't recall if they ever did it. For as long as web sites routinely ask users to re-authenticate at seemingly random times users will type their password into any page that looks right without thinking. Only by making authentication a very rare event can you start to convince users to take more care over checking the site origin. I think Facebook has got this right: I don't think I'm ever asked to sign in to Facebook unless I'm using a new device, but lots of websites don't.

4. Teach UI/UX designers about the dangers of designing user interfaces where attacker controlled content isn't strongly visually separated from system controlled content. In this era of personalisation and theming there's really no reason why things like the Gmail attachment icon needs to be placed right next to the content of an email with the same generic white background as attacker controlled content. Give it a semi-transparent background and set users up with a wallpaper-esque theme by default and it gets a lot harder to put things in a message that look like UI widgets.

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