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Welcome Chris Lattner

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Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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post #26

I've met Chris and he is one of the nicest and humblest guy you can imagine. I'm not betting on him lasting in Tesla for more than 12 months. I think there will be a cultural conflict.

Could you explain why you think there will be a cultural conflict? Do Tesla engineers typically act in ways counter to being nice and humble?

It's more like the person above than the people below.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#32
Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs.

He is an inspirational leader and talented people want to work with him. It appears it will be harder and harder to attract and keep talent at Apple with out a leader like Steve Jobs.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#33

There's got to be more to this story. You don't spend years developing a language (Swift) as culmination of previous work (LLVM) and then abandon it for a job in a relatively new and different discipline. It doesn't make much sense to me.

I think you'll find that it's extremely unusual for modern software developers to remain at the one company doing the one job for a long time.

Given it's largely a field for intellectuals, sticking at the one thing for a long time can become repetitive and boring; losing the challenge and the appeal.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#34
post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

what a whiny, irrelevant comment

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

what a whiny, irrelevant comment

No.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#36

There's got to be more to this story. You don't spend years developing a language (Swift) as culmination of previous work (LLVM) and then abandon it for a job in a relatively new and different discipline. It doesn't make much sense to me.

He has a track record of being able to scale engineering organizations in open source and corporate environments.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#37
post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

as Freud said, sometimes a poach is just a poach

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#38

Another example of why Apple is going downhill... Macbook with less ports, copy&paste iPhone with no originality, imac/macpro with old CPUs :-(

Lattner had nothing to do with any of the things you listed.

The reading comprehension on HN is pretty bad lately. OP didn't say Lattner had anything to do with those examples.

The point is that Apple's been dropping the ball a lot lately. Lattner leaving is either another example of that (why didn't they make him a better offer to keep him?) or a consequence of it (what smart person wants to work for a company that's constantly screwing up?).

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

#39
post #18

Well, mystery solved. Now, the new mystery: What does this mean for Apple's car project? Yes, I realize he probably didn't have much (or anything) to do with it (whatever it really even is). There are going to be some batshit crazy theories though, and I can't wait to see how this affects Apple's stock price.

Car is clearly a bet-the-company level product for Apple. Tesla looking more and more like a bet-the-company acquisition.

How is Apple Car clearly a bet-the-company level product for Apple? It could just be Apple's normal secrecy, but as far as I know that project isn't generally well-known enough to be mentioned in the same pantheon as Google or Tesla.
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