Update on the Swift Project Lead • Hacker News Board

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by bratsche » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:18 PM UTC

dorianm wrote: post #27

Ted Kremenek doesn't seem to be a very active contributor of Swift. https://github.com/tkremenek https://github.com/apple/swift/graphs/contributors

And yet Chris still thought he was fit to lead the group. Maybe in a project leadership role it's not all about how many commits you make?

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by mrec » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:19 PM UTC

I don't use or follow Swift, but Chris was also instrumental in the development of LLVM, which has become hugely important in all sorts of areas. Has he still been active in that while working on Swifty stuff, or have other people taken over there already?

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by ddoolin » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:19 PM UTC

Thank you Chris for your significant contributions to the Swift project, and good luck to Ted in the new role!

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by mrkd » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:20 PM UTC

Thanks to Chris for all his work on Swift.

I can't see this any other way than a big loss for Apple.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by Grustaf » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

adamnemecek wrote: post #19

mozumder wrote: post #10

I'm wondering if this means that the major work on Swift the language is complete? I've avoided it since it seems every year the language or the API changes... has it now settled? I really didn't want to go back rewriting code every year.

> I really didn't want to go back rewriting code every year. The changes are mostly syntactic and like API changes. And Xcode has an integrated migration tool that's not too bad. I ported approx. 23KLOC of Swift ( http://audiokit.io ) from 2 to 3 in like 3 hours. And the changes are generally for the better.

Exactly my experience, I don't see why people complain about swift "always changing". I spent less than a working day in total on upgrading and I've been using only swift since it was launched. I don't like the new () requirement on method signature input types though...

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by gmosx » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:26 PM UTC

I didn't see that coming, very disappointing news. Definitely a loss for Apple and Swift. I really hope he will somehow stay involved with the project.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by pcwalton » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:28 PM UTC

Chris has been nothing but a pleasure to interact with every time we've met. Best of luck in his new endeavors. Really excited to see what he'll pursue next. :)

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by pjmlp » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:34 PM UTC

dorianm wrote: post #27

Ted Kremenek doesn't seem to be a very active contributor of Swift. https://github.com/tkremenek https://github.com/apple/swift/graphs/contributors

The best project managers I worked with, didn't write one single line of code on the projects.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:35 PM UTC

dorianm wrote: post #27

Ted Kremenek doesn't seem to be a very active contributor of Swift. https://github.com/tkremenek https://github.com/apple/swift/graphs/contributors

Which is good, since he will lead (and is a contributor, so at least knows the technical details) as opposed to being burdened with day to day coding?

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Post by mikeash » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 6:35 PM UTC

mozumder wrote: post #17

asow92 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're truly worried, I would hold off just a little bit longer. Swift ABI stability is slated for Swift 4.

Is that expected this summer?

Swift seems to be locked to Apple's yearly release schedule, so we should see prerelease versions of Swift 4 this summer, followed by a public 4.0 release around September.