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Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by _23sd » Sun, Jan 08, 2017, 12:20 PM UTC

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #30

The article reminds me how Obama stopped the burgeoning deployment of this system in various European countries at Russia's request, right after he took office, and I wonder if Trump will try to restart the effort to deploy them.

I'd be surprised if he tried to start a diplomatic crisis with Russia right away, just yesterday he said the US will have good relations with Russia under his admin.

The whole Trump/Russia situation is similar to Obama's pledges to warm relations with Russia (most famously, the "reset"), complete with the opposition's foreign policy hawks being perpetually outraged. Of course, the economic crisis was first through tenth on everyone's minds, so it never became a top issue for Obama.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by true_religion » Sun, Jan 08, 2017, 2:42 PM UTC

krona wrote: post #27

true_religion wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not seem childish to me. From the article: > Why? .... South Korea made the decision to deploy the THAAD American missile defense system in the country They are responding to increased military tension with their neighbor, with a minor economic sanction that will not hurt the health, welfare, or stability of their neighbouring country. Such sanctions are a warning shot---a way of saying "yes you see what we d…

> we can do that to your heavy mining industry next You're ostensibly incorrect because China is a member of the WTO and can't unilaterally start economic sanctions against other WTO members. I'm no expert but a particular kind of music (k-pop) is more cultural than anything else and so it may be one of the few legal options China has.

The US is a member of the WTO, but banned online gambling for years without any real sanctions against them.

Countries can and often do unilaterally break portions of global trade deals, and don't care unless there's action taken against them.

Oil producing countries are in a full blown international cartel, but does anyone stop them? Nope.

Is China going to get hit, whilst they're producing so much of the raw materials needed for electronics?

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by krona » Sun, Jan 08, 2017, 5:40 PM UTC

true_religion wrote: post #32

krona wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we can do that to your heavy mining industry next You're ostensibly incorrect because China is a member of the WTO and can't unilaterally start economic sanctions against other WTO members. I'm no expert but a particular kind of music (k-pop) is more cultural than anything else and so it may be one of the few legal options China has.

The US is a member of the WTO, but banned online gambling for years without any real sanctions against them. Countries can and often do unilaterally break portions of global trade deals, and don't care unless there's action taken against them. Oil producing countries are in a full blown international cartel, but does anyone stop them? Nope. Is China going to get hit, whilst they're producing so much of the raw materi…

> The US is a member of the WTO, but banned online gambling for years without any real sanctions against them.

I see you're trying to cast a hypocritical light on the US, even though the US has nothing to do with it.

The complainants (Antigua and Barbuda) were compensated in 2014, by the US.

Ultimately a country can build a case for banning a thing (a good, service, etc.) but if a country says 'These widgets are OK, in fact we manufacture them ourselves, but we've decided to ban the ones that come from country X' then that usually is anti-trade in no uncertain terms, in WTO language it is 'unfair.'

It's not like the US banned online gambling on purpose so as to try to cripple the Antiguan economy, as would be the case for banning Korean exports to China.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by WalterSear » Sun, Jan 08, 2017, 5:48 PM UTC

thesmallestcat wrote: post #24

If China didn't want a missile shield at their doorstep, maybe, just maybe, they should've stop propping up a regime that carries out provocative ballistic missile tests in the region and threatens nuclear strikes against neighbors ad nauseam. China has nobody but themselves and shortsighted foreign policy to blame for this mess.

They don't want a multimillion person refuge crisis on their doorstep.