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Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by ergo98 » Mon, May 10, 2010, 6:00 PM UTC

Pheter wrote: post #20

CoryMathews wrote: post #4

Goes to show that the Internet is still not ready to completely leave flash. All the more reason why Apple needs to get over themselves and support flash. Push HTML5 because yes it is better but support flash until it is no longer used.

Regardless of the whole Apple/Flash issue: Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies. If everyone dropped support for flash (obviously this wouldn't actually happen) then developers would be forced to use alternatives. If flash continues to be supported then developers have less of an incentive to replace their current solutions.

>Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies.

If by "newer technologies" you mean "The Apple App Store" then you have a point. If you mean HTML5, then you have been taken to the cleaners are terribly gullible.

Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by Pheter » Mon, May 10, 2010, 7:15 PM UTC

weego wrote: post #26

Pheter wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the whole Apple/Flash issue: Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies. If everyone dropped support for flash (obviously this wouldn't actually happen) then developers would be forced to use alternatives. If flash continues to be supported then developers have less of an incentive to replace their current solutions.

developers can only do what most people can experience well. HTML5 uses today are on sites where most people use a primary alternative, and most of these people have a vested interest (Youtube for market share on mobile devices, hearts and minds and also future for licencing technologies etc). It would be an irresponsible developer that let loose with full HTML5 site aimed at "normal" people any time soon if they did…

Exactly, and if support for flash dwindles, then developers will move to other platforms that "most people can experience well".

Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by Pheter » Mon, May 10, 2010, 7:21 PM UTC

ergo98 wrote: post #31

Pheter wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the whole Apple/Flash issue: Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies. If everyone dropped support for flash (obviously this wouldn't actually happen) then developers would be forced to use alternatives. If flash continues to be supported then developers have less of an incentive to replace their current solutions.

>Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies. If by "newer technologies" you mean "The Apple App Store" then you have a point. If you mean HTML5, then you have been taken to the cleaners are terribly gullible.

I specifically prefaced my comment by saying "regardless of the whole Apple/Flash issue".

However, i'll bite. Why would I be gullible for believing that HTML 5 (and by extention, the APIs such as canvas and offline storage) is newer than Flash? Acording to Wikipedia, the first working draft of HTML 5 was published in 2008. Flash has been around for a lot longer than this.