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The Wrong Eating Habits Can Hurt Your Brain, Not Just Your Waistline

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Re: The Wrong Eating Habits Can Hurt Your Brain, Not Just Your Waistline

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Assuming sugars and all saturated fats are both equally to blame is not in tune with modern research, though of course a lot of competing voices exist.

This stood out to me, as well. I don't think everyone fits the mold that any one macro group is good or bad because I think it depends on our gut bacteria (which is potentially as unique as a fingerprint[0]). I don't deny calories in > calories burnt leads to weight gain but to put it that simply does a disservice to educating people about their bodies and completely ignores the hormones controlling fat storage. "res…

To be frank I think studies like this give some people an excuse. They become wrapped up in all the other factors beside calories (macro break down, genetics, hormone levels, GI, insulin spikes, meal timing, illness etc) yet ignore what is by far the biggest part of the pie (terrible pun, my apologies) - calories.

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Having been on a ketogentic diet (low carbs, high fat) for the last 5 months or so, this is in line with what I've seen.

I went on the diet because of the promise of a clearer head, as well as general health improvement. It made sense, as I'd been plotting my work efficiency with and without sugary products. The complete removal of all carbs has done nothing but improve my life.

The carb addiction component mentioned elsewhere lines up as well. At the beginning of the diet, there's a period called the keto flu that lasts a couple weeks. It's described as mental fogging, headaches, dehydration, etc. While this is also attributed to the switching of metabolic pathways (more water and electrolytes are needed daily), the effects were very similar to caffeine withdrawal.

And of course I indulged in sugar through the holidays, and found myself figuratively face down in a gutter each time ;)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fats are pretty damn filling, even when caloric density is accounted for, at least for me.

Well I think that's a big part of why the focus lately is moving to sugars over fats. But the other point is that they're not very rich in nutrients.

Unsaturated fats are essential for brain function & health. Increased consumption has been linked to a reduced risk of dementia and Alzheimers.

Re: The Wrong Eating Habits Can Hurt Your Brain, Not Just Your Waistline

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> He says something similar may happen in human brains when people eat a diet high in fat and sugar. Davidson says there's a vicious cycle of bad diets and brain changes. He points to a 2015 study in the Journal of Pediatrics that found obese children performed more poorly on memory tasks that test the hippocampus compared with kids who weren't overweight. These assertions raise doubts in my mind regarding the study…

> Fat and sugar (a carbohydrate) account for two of the three most common macronutrients, the third being protein. Eating a diet that's low in both fat and carbs would imply a mostly-protein diet which can lead to illness

Spot-on observation. Furthermore, while proteins can be metabolized for energy, that's not advisable as a major energy source, proteins should be spared for day-to-day repairs (most-all multicellular structures ---incl tissues/bones/organs/tendons, the brain, not just simply "the muscles"--- are constantly tearing-down and rebuilding and we also synthesize much other crucial stuff partially from amino acids, red/white blood cells, enzymes, the list goes on, even glucose if&as necessary) and burning them instead not just removes them as building materials but also creates various additional stresses on the body, produces extra detrimental waste products to be run through the kidneys and get excreted, etc.

All mammals excel at beta-oxidation of both carbohydrates and fatty acids for energy, I know of no animal thriving off the meagre amount of energy their bodies may safely obtain from proteins. Many humans don't seem do particularly well (in the long run) combining fats & carbs in ~equally high amounts and find better results emphasizing one and sharply reducing the other. (Personally I'm a fat advocate but no need to get into that discussion ;)

Consider 2000kcals from protein-only (not that your body will allow this) would require 500g of protein, so about ~2kg of super-lean meat or over 100 egg-whites.. and that's not yet counting any protein usage as building-blocks!

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> He says something similar may happen in human brains when people eat a diet high in fat and sugar. Davidson says there's a vicious cycle of bad diets and brain changes. He points to a 2015 study in the Journal of Pediatrics that found obese children performed more poorly on memory tasks that test the hippocampus compared with kids who weren't overweight. These assertions raise doubts in my mind regarding the study…

There's a huge difference between various carbs. In the 90s both Japan and developing countries in east Asia had absolutely massive rice intakes and extremely low rates of obesity, and high longevity.

According to studies I've read, many people got 1/2 to 2/3 of their total calories just from rice. You can't do that with sugar and lead the world in longevity rates.

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> He says something similar may happen in human brains when people eat a diet high in fat and sugar. Davidson says there's a vicious cycle of bad diets and brain changes. He points to a 2015 study in the Journal of Pediatrics that found obese children performed more poorly on memory tasks that test the hippocampus compared with kids who weren't overweight. These assertions raise doubts in my mind regarding the study…

This is the "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie" argument, and it's not true. Sugar upsets the metabolic process in disconcerting ways, leading to fat accumulation and insulin resistance; sugar is also more addictive than cocaine[0]. Meaning that when you consume calories from sugar, you crave more sugar calories. The foods you eat do make a difference in how fat you get, because they alter your metabolism and behav…

The "calorie is a calorie" argument is true in that

    weight gain/loss == surplus/deficit intake
Your point about sugar fucking with insulin balance and its addictive properties are good points, but not directly related to the study at hand. Western prepared foods are loaded with added sugar, but it's completely possible for obese people to eat a complete diet of home-cooked meals in surplus using only fresh, raw ingredients without a gram of added sugar. It's also completely possible for skinny people to eat shit food and not get fat. The researchers should have controlled for body fat % and diet, which would not have been challenging. Instead it seems they've chosen to completely conflate the two key factors.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I think that's a big part of why the focus lately is moving to sugars over fats. But the other point is that they're not very rich in nutrients.

Unsaturated fats are essential for brain function & health. Increased consumption has been linked to a reduced risk of dementia and Alzheimers.

It's saturated fats and trans fats in particular that everybody is warning you off, not lipids altogether.
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