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How to Become a ‘Superager’

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Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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> This means that pleasant puzzles like Sudoku are not enough to provide the benefits of superaging. Neither are the popular diversions of various “brain game” websites. You must expend enough effort that you feel some “yuck.” Do it till it hurts, and then a bit more. This sounds a lot like software development. We are constantly on the edge of frustration. Working on a complex problem can be at the same time exhaust…

So far so good! (age 59 and still cursing bad code)

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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I'm curious if proponents of 'immortality' do not fear a world where there are tremendous social (not to mention environmental) consequences to significantly extended life/health-spans? If you are under a certain age in any country (say Most peoples' formative life views develop in a certain brief segment of their lives, from which their subsequent experiences simply reinforce. It's sadly a rare few that continually…

If you are under a certain age in any country (say Just because they have a desire to protect the status quo does not actually mean that they can protect the status quo. A population of 7 billion+ immortals where the vast majority are set in their ways is terrifying, and being born into such an oppressive world would fill me with dread. As opposed to having humans who can't remember the past because the experience of…

> Those who don't remember the lesson of history are doomed to repeat it

This maxim is hardly a law of nature; it's sometimes true and sometimes false.

Also, we have managed to escape this problem many times in history: by studying history. Human knowledge accumulates and is refined throughout the generations. Sure, more information has been lost than retained, but repeating mistakes is not inevitable.

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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"Many labs have observed that these critical brain regions increase in activity when people perform difficult tasks, whether the effort is physical or mental. You can therefore help keep these regions thick and healthy through vigorous exercise and bouts of strenuous mental effort." Woah woah woah there. That doesn't follow at all. Even if you buy the "exercise model" - which can't possibly be tested by observing bra…

you seem to be of the opinion that because concussions are bad, the idea of exercise aiding aging or other mental benefit isnt supported? that's absurd. there's significant evidence of the benefits of physical activity to mental health. which is pretty obvious considering that muscle contraction is entirely driven by the CNS.

here is some study into these various ideas. google your heart out but this was the first i found.

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/newsevents/news/newsrecords/2015/Novemb...

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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post #25

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If you are under a certain age in any country (say Just because they have a desire to protect the status quo does not actually mean that they can protect the status quo. A population of 7 billion+ immortals where the vast majority are set in their ways is terrifying, and being born into such an oppressive world would fill me with dread. As opposed to having humans who can't remember the past because the experience of…

Some thoughts: - I can also imagine a world where the 0.01% continue to accumulate wealth, they will certainly have a growing ability to protect their position. The world has finite resources, when "immortality" is discovered will certainly have an effect on wealth and power distributions. - I would argue many people today forget what happens to them/society within years well within their lifetimes. - "Population con…

I don't think wealth accumulation is an issue. However, heritage is what heavily contributes to wealth accumulation. With aging gone, and subsequently, heritage heavily delayed, wealth distribution gap will become smaller, not larger.

Life expectancy increases tend to decrease birth rate. And with Elon Musk currently working on colonizing Mars, and seasteading making some progress, there will likely be a lot of place to live in by the time we work out aging. Actually, if both fail, there is a place for 6 billion more people on Earth.

You're afraid of your own prejudices about something that isn't even here yet. And I don't understand your use of word "immortality": it is aging we are discussing here, a condition that causes people to die, often in misery and pain over long periods of time. I think it is a very humane, global, noble cause, and I honestly don't understand how you can be so cynical about it.

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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If you are under a certain age in any country (say Just because they have a desire to protect the status quo does not actually mean that they can protect the status quo. A population of 7 billion+ immortals where the vast majority are set in their ways is terrifying, and being born into such an oppressive world would fill me with dread. As opposed to having humans who can't remember the past because the experience of…

Some thoughts: - I can also imagine a world where the 0.01% continue to accumulate wealth, they will certainly have a growing ability to protect their position. The world has finite resources, when "immortality" is discovered will certainly have an effect on wealth and power distributions. - I would argue many people today forget what happens to them/society within years well within their lifetimes. - "Population con…

If you improve health, you improve lifespan.

And if you cure all diseases, you'll get multi-generational lifespan.

There is no escaping that kind of logic.

Unless your solution is to embed a suicide switch into all humans when they reach the cutting-off age, say at 100, or 150 or 200.

How would anybody convince me that people deserves to die for the next generation of human beings to be born is a good thing beyond me.

Either we rise up to the challenge or condemn future humanity to this kind of fate.

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some thoughts: - I can also imagine a world where the 0.01% continue to accumulate wealth, they will certainly have a growing ability to protect their position. The world has finite resources, when "immortality" is discovered will certainly have an effect on wealth and power distributions. - I would argue many people today forget what happens to them/society within years well within their lifetimes. - "Population con…

I don't think wealth accumulation is an issue. However, heritage is what heavily contributes to wealth accumulation. With aging gone, and subsequently, heritage heavily delayed, wealth distribution gap will become smaller, not larger. Life expectancy increases tend to decrease birth rate. And with Elon Musk currently working on colonizing Mars, and seasteading making some progress, there will likely be a lot of place…

For as so long we have a positive birthrate, we'll reach the point of using all the energy that our local sun and technology can provide.

We'll have to consider population control.

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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Good habits should feel good. Strange that we've evolved the opposite physiological response.

We didn't. Good habits still feel good. I feel much better when working out than when lounging on a couch watching TV. The first feels lively and fun, the second makes me fidgety and annoyed. Eating well gives me energy and lifts my spirits, eating crap makes me lethargic and bleurch. The problem is that initial activation energy. It's easier to sit down than to put on workout clothes. Easier to grab a piece of choco…

Now I just gotta figure out how to make books easier than internet.

Keep a list of books you want to read. Buy a couple at a time. Keep your current book by your computer and/or bed. When you finish one, buy another so you always have books.

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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> This means that pleasant puzzles like Sudoku are not enough to provide the benefits of superaging. Neither are the popular diversions of various “brain game” websites. You must expend enough effort that you feel some “yuck.” Do it till it hurts, and then a bit more. This sounds a lot like software development. We are constantly on the edge of frustration. Working on a complex problem can be at the same time exhaust…

is it possible to expend some yuck without thinning my hairline and makinng me look old? :)

in the same vein, could I get it done without going completely gray before 40

Re: How to Become a ‘Superager’

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think wealth accumulation is an issue. However, heritage is what heavily contributes to wealth accumulation. With aging gone, and subsequently, heritage heavily delayed, wealth distribution gap will become smaller, not larger. Life expectancy increases tend to decrease birth rate. And with Elon Musk currently working on colonizing Mars, and seasteading making some progress, there will likely be a lot of place…

For as so long we have a positive birthrate, we'll reach the point of using all the energy that our local sun and technology can provide. We'll have to consider population control.

There are multiple issues with this idea. First, I just don't think you can really tell that from this perspective. That's just thinking too far into the future. This sort of argument is likely to look like a Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894 [1] to our descendants.

[1]: http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Great-...

Have you actually considered how many people it would take to use all energy that sun and future tech can provide? I'm sure no human being can give you even a rough estimate.

It's not like solving aging will break markets. There's a balance between supply & demand, which will indirectly regulate birth rate due to parenting costs.

Universe is really vast, if not infinite. And when we have more people, alive, and doing meaningful things while automation takes over menial tasks, it's really going to make us tackle other problems faster, like transportation.

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