Another tech project bites dust due to clueless managerial types trying to propel their ego...
I saw an early interview where an early founder was saying they were going to put google out of business. Wasnt a good sign.
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Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The word lineage is boring? It seems to be haughty, lofty, arrogant, and so on.
Where does lineage mean that? I've never seen that definition.
when someone refers to their parentage/ancestors as their "lineage" it almost always means they are royal/upper class/landed gentry, etc...
example: http://all-that-is-interesting.com/lineage-british-royal-fam...
Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
The word lineage is boring? It seems to be haughty, lofty, arrogant, and so on.
Where does lineage mean that? I've never seen that definition.
"Lineage" can have a connotation of people talking about the great things their ancestors have done and attempting to somewhat attach themselves to those deeds, as well as an opportunity to look down on people of "lesser breeding".
Obviously it has positive connotations as well, but the negative ones are definitely there.
Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team
#34Part of the problem is the confusing naming. I'm an Android fan and I can't tell the difference between CyanogenMod, Cyanogen OS, Cyanogen Inc and Cyngn. Terrible way to run a business and project when it's too hard to separate out what they each do by a unique name.
The conflation was deliberate. They wanted to trade on the good name of the original open project.
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They weren't targeting users, they were targeting manufacturers (pay them and they'll do the software). It actually makes sense as a business model, but they messed up by backstabbing their first customer (after contracting with OnePlus, they signed an exclusive contract with MicroMax that no other company can sell cyanogenos in India, which, had OnePlus not made OxygenOS, would have killed them.) It was probably the…
>>It was probably the stupidest move they could have done, as no company would trust them again, and lost them all the goodwill they had. There are plenty of people in the business world that screw so many people, businesses, banks and they still manage to continue doing business. I wish there was a name for it. Madoff is an example: even after people warned others about his business being a scam he still continued d…
Screwing other people is possible when you are at (or near) the top of the pile. When you're at the bottom, it just gets you killed.
If you screw your 100th customer, you have 99 customers who are pretty likely to write it off. If you screw your first customer, it's a warning to others.
Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team
#36Part of the problem is the confusing naming. I'm an Android fan and I can't tell the difference between CyanogenMod, Cyanogen OS, Cyanogen Inc and Cyngn. Terrible way to run a business and project when it's too hard to separate out what they each do by a unique name.
The conflation was deliberate. They wanted to trade on the good name of the original open project.
It was nothing sinister. Cyanogen himself, Steve Kondik, was the CEO of the new company. They were 100% open about it.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hard to make money selling a free OS to replace an OS the customer doesn't pay for already?
Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google.
> Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google.
The payment is your private information.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google.
> Android is "free" to the consumer, but the payment is that if you want all of the Google apps (which are no longer part of the open source stuff) and the consumer uses the Google apps (likely), all of the search revenue goes to Google. The payment is your private information.
That too, although unpersonalized search ads are worth a lot more money than your private information.
Re: Thank You and Goodbye, the CyanogenMod Team
#39Another tech project bites dust due to clueless managerial types trying to propel their ego...
cyanogen (the corporation) was toast when they stabbed their first major customer, oneplus, in the back...
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tl;dr: Cyanogen terminated their contract with OnePlus all of a sudden to enter an exclusive agreement with another company in India, causing the phone to be banned in the country. This is widely seen as a dick move.
OnePlus had a worldwide (excluding mainland China) non-exclusive right to use the Cyanogen trademarks and ship the software on their device. This agreement was in place for a time period, and said that Cyanogen wouldn’t work with other OEMs to develop or integrate the system during this time in the regions covered by the agreement. Cyanogen then went and made an agreement with Micromax that was exclusive (despite OnePlus already having non-exclusive rights to these countries), and told OnePlus they were terminating their agreement in an email simply saying they were terminating. Such a contract termination is most definitely unusual, and normally is not permitted without (significant) penalties... Micromax succeeded in their injunction request against OnePlus, preventing the import and sale of OnePlus devices, on account of their exclusivity deal.
https://www.xda-developers.com/cyngn-oneplus-micromax-the-le...