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Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by aban »

davidbanham wrote: post #28
nickpsecurity wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is on my box. I'm running Ubuntu on this one. Like with Windows, there's an icon for networking. It automatically connects if it's Ethernet. If wireless, clicking it displays a list of access points to use. Clicking on a protected one asks for a password. It saves the password then just connects to it anytime it's near. Pretty simple but probably distro-specific app.

You're conflating your desktop environment with your window manager. For example, I run xmonad on top of xfce and use the standard xfce tray, wifi config, etc. Xmonad just replaces the xfce window manager.

What the parent said.

To be even more specific, network management is really distro- and DE-agnostic. For instance, Arch wiki describes a multitude of ways for wired [0] and wireless [1] network configuration, that would technically work in other distros as well.

Most distros and DEs ship with Gnome's NetworkManager [2] but with different front-ends: distros with GTK-based DEs like Gnome or Unity usually ship network-manager-applet, and distros with Qt-based DEs like KDE usually ship plasma-nm or networkmanager-qt.

Power management [3] is a bit different. There are distro-specific recommendations and also 3rd party apps, but DEs usually have their own power manager.

Now, when you choose to use a DE, the choice of which network or power management solution you use is already made for you, but when you don't use a DE then you will be choosing them yourself.

[0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_config...

[2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by nickpsecurity »

aban wrote: post #31
davidbanham wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're conflating your desktop environment with your window manager. For example, I run xmonad on top of xfce and use the standard xfce tray, wifi config, etc. Xmonad just replaces the xfce window manager.

What the parent said. To be even more specific, network management is really distro- and DE-agnostic. For instance, Arch wiki describes a multitude of ways for wired [0] and wireless [1] network configuration, that would technically work in other distros as well. Most distros and DEs ship with Gnome's NetworkManager [2] but with different front-ends: distros with GTK-based DEs like Gnome or Unity usually ship network…

Appreciate the corrections from both of you.

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by Elv13 »

srd wrote: post #29

Using the opportunity to ask other awesome users: How do you configure floating popup windows so that the display decently? The Skype user profile windows, or the firefox ssl certificate warning dialog are the kind of windows I'm talking about. The few other awesome users I know don't have an answer for this either. This is the last outstanding configuration issue I have with awesome.

You have to make a rule, see

https://awesomewm.org/apidoc/classes/client.html#client.type https://awesomewm.org/apidoc/classes/client.html#client.floa... https://awesomewm.org/apidoc/libraries/awful.rules.html

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by dingdingdang »

peatmoss wrote: post #11
mlgh wrote: post #8

If you think that awesome wm is bloated, try dwm on which awesome wm was historically based. The key bindings look the same. After I've noticed that I haven't used 90% of awesome wm functionality, I moved to a dwm which is basically 2k lines of readable C code in a single file and never looked back - it's so easy to configure it to do exactly what you need.

I discovered that my mostly vanilla XMonad was basically the same as DWM. My only gripe with DWM is that I needed to patch the code, compile, and install my own to turn my worthless windows key into the magic window manager key. I feel like DWM takes non-configurability literally one key too far.

Wouldn't it be relatively easy to patch it to load settings from an ini file?

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by Elv13 »

mholt wrote: post #26
Elv13 wrote: post #16

Some screenshots: * https://awesomewm.org/images/screen.png * http://imgur.com/I7eL5it * http://imgur.com/a/thZiW * https://s15.postimg.org/xo9zg2vzf/pick4.png (disclaimer: I am one of the dev; the first 2 screenshots are not mine)

The blue FUI is quite beautiful. How can I get that look on my Ubuntu machine?

Hello,

I use the `upstream_shape_api_p4_unmerged` Awesome branch from my github fork. My config is at `https://github.com/Elv13/awesome-configs`. The theme is "SciFi" uncomment that line in rc.lua and comment the other selected theme.

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by petepete »

beevai142 wrote: post #24
petepete wrote: post #2

I used to use and love AwesomeWM for years, super fast, moderately easy to customise and very lightweight. Eventually I switched to Gnome 3 simply because it made configuring wi-fi and power options easier.

Gnome 3 users may find refuge in extensions, eg. shellshape provides reasonable tiling experience. Too bad it doesn't work with Wayland.

Actually, the 'killer app' for me is tmux. Almost all the windows I had open were shells or browser windows, tmux is so good at managing my shell sessions I no longer feel the need for more than one window. Gnome's simple split is enough if I need side by side on one monitor (which is rare).

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by petepete »

rsync wrote: post #23
petepete wrote: post #2

I used to use and love AwesomeWM for years, super fast, moderately easy to customise and very lightweight. Eventually I switched to Gnome 3 simply because it made configuring wi-fi and power options easier.

"Eventually I switched to Gnome 3 simply because it made configuring wi-fi and power options easier." I don't understand this comment ... possibly because I have not used modern X (gnome, KDE, whatever) very much at all ... How is configuring wifi and power a window manager issue ? Isn't there an application for wifi config that everyone on Linux uses, regardless of WM ? I use FreeBSD and OSX and my FreeBSD wifi conf…

AwesomeWM has no in built wi-fi config (rightfully, as it's just a window manager). You need to use (and research, learn etc) another tool.

Gnome has it built in (as it's a DE, not just a WM). Select network from applet, type in password, done. Same for sound, power options, displays, wallpaper and things I want to spend as little time as possible thinking about.

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by mholt »

Elv13 wrote: post #35
mholt wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blue FUI is quite beautiful. How can I get that look on my Ubuntu machine?

Hello, I use the `upstream_shape_api_p4_unmerged` Awesome branch from my github fork. My config is at ` https://github.com/Elv13/awesome-configs` . The theme is "SciFi" uncomment that line in rc.lua and comment the other selected theme.

Thank you!

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by agumonkey »

Elv13 wrote: post #16

Some screenshots: * https://awesomewm.org/images/screen.png * http://imgur.com/I7eL5it * http://imgur.com/a/thZiW * https://s15.postimg.org/xo9zg2vzf/pick4.png (disclaimer: I am one of the dev; the first 2 screenshots are not mine)

Thank you for keeping awesome alive. I barely used it, I ended up with wmii/i3, but I'm happy to see simple alternatives.

Re: Awesome window manager framework version 4.0 changes

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Post by ejeojene »

echelon wrote: post #20

I used to use Awesome during college, and it was as the name suggests, an "awesome" experience. I am required to use a Mac at work, and I don't have the time to invest in maintaining a config file for a tiling WM on my personal machine anymore. I really miss having a tiling window manager, though...

Check out spectacle, it does the job of tiling on Mac OS.
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