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Why time management is ruining our lives

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Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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I suspect that the notion of managing one's inbox creates a sort of kruger-dunning effect with the inbox owner in terms of perceived productivity. I've given up active or structured management of my inbox : I read a few times during the work day, try to keep up, but don't get worried about missing 40% of things that come through. I'm at-ease with the notion that important communications have a way of finding me (emai…

Ah, so you're one of those folks who doesn't answer my emails! Makes me pester you multiple times, by email, SMS, Skype, and if I'm truly desperate, the dog park. You're just outsourcing the work of communication onto me. When you ask for a favor I will pretend I didn't hear it! Winky emoticon.

Are you sure all of your communications are so critical?

There are also people who will chase others to the dog park to tell them that a CI build passed...

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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Can someone summarize the point of the article who have read it?

I highly recommend reading the entire article because it's a good read and can't be adequately summarized in this way but here it is anyway:

So-called productivity techniques usually end up having the opposite effect, in either the short-term, long-term or both.

An obvious example is making workers work more leads to tired and frustrated workers over the long term. Or giving tight

deadlines to increase throughput: just results in anxiety and slower net progress. That's manual labor -- for anything

else, the perils are even greater: "Because you don't get creativity for free".

However, the problem is even more fundamental. This trendy and increased desire for "efficiency", backed by capitalism and

basic human greed, has a lasting effect on the psyche of society and it's individuals. In 1930, Keynes predicted that

within a century, we would be working 15 hour work weeks, due to increased efficiency. That's hardly the case today. I

enjoyed the carpet example: we created a vacuum to be more productive with cleaning the carpets, which would theoretically

result in less time spent cleaning. However, now that we have vacuums, carpets are expected to be spotless, so we spend

more time cleaning them anyway, and finding new ways to clean them even further. "Work expands so as to fill the time available

for it's completion" -- Parkinson's Law.

Finally the overall message is that we should slow down and live for the sake of living. Don't walk to exercise and get

healthy -- walk to walk. Don't "party for contracts, lunch for contacts". Do things for their own intrinsic value. "Growth

for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell". These ideologies need to be implemented at the societal level

as well as the personal level.

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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post #26

I suspect that the notion of managing one's inbox creates a sort of kruger-dunning effect with the inbox owner in terms of perceived productivity. I've given up active or structured management of my inbox : I read a few times during the work day, try to keep up, but don't get worried about missing 40% of things that come through. I'm at-ease with the notion that important communications have a way of finding me (emai…

Ah, so you're one of those folks who doesn't answer my emails! Makes me pester you multiple times, by email, SMS, Skype, and if I'm truly desperate, the dog park. You're just outsourcing the work of communication onto me. When you ask for a favor I will pretend I didn't hear it! Winky emoticon.

this is true. People pester me multiple times : and my response is to try, over time to enable them to make decisions and not ask me for permission - then if the shit hits the fan its my fault (I also get a ton of credit if stuff works)

Also - the management-by-walking-around part ensures I get face/voice time with many people in my immediate circles.

If you're not in my immediate circle, and you're a stranger, its very true that the dog-park might be your best bet :)

I don't mean to down-play what you're saying though -- there is a level of frustration that can occur. I've just found that keeping human contact with people is the salve to not responding to emails.

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like something someone would say that has no idea what dementia is; feels comparable to saying a savant is a genius. Being in the present is a skill that is learned, not a disorder.

Since children have it, I don't think it's a learned skill. But I think the bad habits of drifting off to another illusory time are learned, and then have to be unlearned.

Children have "it" - what is it?

Being in the present and focused on it are not the same. It is like saying, "Sure, I able to walk alone at night through a bad area" - and actually being aware of your surrounding and adapting to the situation.

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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post #31
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, so you're one of those folks who doesn't answer my emails! Makes me pester you multiple times, by email, SMS, Skype, and if I'm truly desperate, the dog park. You're just outsourcing the work of communication onto me. When you ask for a favor I will pretend I didn't hear it! Winky emoticon.

Are you sure all of your communications are so critical? There are also people who will chase others to the dog park to tell them that a CI build passed...

i don't follow how you got to the snarky "critical" if andyidsinga is ignoring 40% of emails?

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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Tolstoy, 1885: - Most important time is now; - Most important people are the ones you're with; - Most important task is helping them. __ Lots of people focus way, way too much on a past the may have never been, or at the least, will never change - and a future that may never be, or will feel different when it finally arrives as reality.

> - Most important time is now; I've been thinking about this occasionally -- it never quite sat right with me. Then, recently on a podcast (I think it was Marc Maron, can't remember the guest) they were talking about this, but suggested instead of living in the now, one should ONLY live in both the past and the future -- "those who suffer from dementia and similar diseases live in-the-now and its terrible". In a cer…

> one should ONLY live in both the past and the future

Time is expression of sorrow. Past time is full of regrets, future time is full of apprehension.

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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Time management is another way how the managing class dominates life more and more. For somebody who mainly spends his time in meetings it's fine to manage his time closely. For a lot of engineers it would be better if they solved only a few very difficult problems instead of many trivial ones as it seems to be the trend right now.

Re: Why time management is ruining our lives

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post #26

I suspect that the notion of managing one's inbox creates a sort of kruger-dunning effect with the inbox owner in terms of perceived productivity. I've given up active or structured management of my inbox : I read a few times during the work day, try to keep up, but don't get worried about missing 40% of things that come through. I'm at-ease with the notion that important communications have a way of finding me (emai…

Ah, so you're one of those folks who doesn't answer my emails! Makes me pester you multiple times, by email, SMS, Skype, and if I'm truly desperate, the dog park. You're just outsourcing the work of communication onto me. When you ask for a favor I will pretend I didn't hear it! Winky emoticon.

If it's not important enough to message me twice, it doesn't need a sub-week-later reply. (Obviously, some caveats about important people, routine work messages, etc.)

I generally get back to people or read messages, but only when I spend an hour going through things when I have free time. I don't feel obligated to respond to random messages on their timeline.

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