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Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by vidarh »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #15

These PR pieces are getting funnier each day. Do people really want to switch from a rock-solid, sandboxed Unix to an inferior OS like Windows? Did people already forget the crazy days of regedit, zero app sandboxing, inconsistent installers, anti-viruses etc? I wish more people jumped ship to Linux instead of the Apple/Windows duopoly, but if wishes were horses...

I detest Windows and much prefer Linux, but I have used OS X at work for years before, and caused it to crash regularly. Your experience will greatly depend on what applications you use and your usage pattern. I'd prefer more people switched to Linux too, but it's by no means certain that their experience would be better.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by mgkimsal »

artursapek wrote: post #16

I believe it. I just abandoned Apple after years of loyalty. I looked hard at Surfaces and after considering them for a while I decided they weren't ready to be my main dev machine, so I went with a Thinkpad. But Microsoft is doing great stuff with its hardware lately.

I looked at a surface book last month, decided to stick one more cycle with the new MBP, but I was moderately tempted. Hardware looks and felt pretty good. Biggest drawback was window 10 itself - too many colleagues and clients still have daily issues with it (mostly unscheduled updates and downtime) - I don't want to deal with that right now. But if it shakes out and stabilizes in the next couple years, a Surface might be my day to day machine then.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by jetti »

0wl3x wrote: post #11
jetti wrote: post #3

I just can't get behind either the Surface or Macbook Pro. I had a Macbook that my wife has taken over and I'm currently rockin' an Asus ultrabook that has a 15" screen. I love the bigger screens and 13" is just way to small for me. For the price of a Surface Book I could get a Dell/HP/Lenovo with a 15" screen, 32GB of memory and a large SSD.

I agree with you. I use a surface pro 3 as my daily driver but I have two 23" monitors I plug it into. I can only use the 13" screen for movie watching and reading.

If you have it plugged into two monitors I'm curious as to why you ended up buying a surface pro.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by erokar »

martijn_himself wrote: post #18

I can't believe anyone using macOS for their professional workflow would consider switching to Windows 10 despite all the criticism leveled at Apple's hardware (most of which I think is totally justified). I use Windows professionally (for .NET development) and I think Windows 10 is still light-years behind, with an unstable, jarring OS experience full of bugs and niggles and unloved and underdeveloped touch interfac…

If by "professional workflow" you mean programming, I agree. But I'd have no problem using Linux for that instead of MacOS.

However, for many "professional workflow" means using the MS Office suite and a browser. For that use, Windows 10 is not only adequate but better than MacOS.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by emilsedgh »

artursapek wrote: post #16

I believe it. I just abandoned Apple after years of loyalty. I looked hard at Surfaces and after considering them for a while I decided they weren't ready to be my main dev machine, so I went with a Thinkpad. But Microsoft is doing great stuff with its hardware lately.

Mind if I ask what Thinkpad? And are you happy with it?

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by tolmark12 »

martijn_himself wrote: post #18

I can't believe anyone using macOS for their professional workflow would consider switching to Windows 10 despite all the criticism leveled at Apple's hardware (most of which I think is totally justified). I use Windows professionally (for .NET development) and I think Windows 10 is still light-years behind, with an unstable, jarring OS experience full of bugs and niggles and unloved and underdeveloped touch interfac…

I agree, I hate the state of mac hardware, but I would have a very hard time leaving the macOS for the windows OS

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by toyg »

artursapek wrote: post #16

I believe it. I just abandoned Apple after years of loyalty. I looked hard at Surfaces and after considering them for a while I decided they weren't ready to be my main dev machine, so I went with a Thinkpad. But Microsoft is doing great stuff with its hardware lately.

I hope my MBPr doesn't die on me for another year and in the meantime Cook will see some sense. I have to say I'm not in love with the Surface either, but their trajectory seems opposite to the Apple one: MS now "gets" what developers want, even non-MS ones. The change of CEO did wonders for them, whereas it seems to have sent Cupertino on the path of being Yet Another Consumer Electronics Company.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by rado »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #15

These PR pieces are getting funnier each day. Do people really want to switch from a rock-solid, sandboxed Unix to an inferior OS like Windows? Did people already forget the crazy days of regedit, zero app sandboxing, inconsistent installers, anti-viruses etc? I wish more people jumped ship to Linux instead of the Apple/Windows duopoly, but if wishes were horses...

That's why AAPL must become 10x worse before I think of switching. There is no alternative to macOS. I wonder if they realise it.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by delegate »

I've resuscitated an older Windows PC, after years of exclusive OSX.. I've changed the CPU cooler (Intel Q9550), added an SSD drive - and my old PC is back up, with the SSD it has enough juice to do the tasks I need it for - run Visual Studio 2015, browsing ... plus I can also play some (older) games on it, which is a lot of fun.

I miss the old days of being able to play with the hardware, buy new video or sound cards, overclock the CPU and so on.

Years ago when I was using Windows 7 it seemed the best OS Microsoft has put out so far (and I think since).

But after years of working on a mac, I have to say that Windows feels like a huge hack in comparison. There are countless UIs you have to access in order to configure the OS, all kinds of voodoo utilities, registry editor hacks and so on.

Should I also mention the daily blue screen of death ? Probably my fault somehow, but still..

Yes yes, I remember.. this used to be the Windows experience - I used to liked that.. It was what made me an 'experienced' user.

But I don't anymore. I'm not sure what the Windows experience is today, but I'm not eager to spend a lot of money to find that out...

Of course I'm curious about the Surface hardware - but not as much as to accept an inferior OS experience.

After all, these little things, the details, the polish, the smoothness ... they trickle down into the creative work that I do, they do influence me subconsciously.. all the time.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by toyg »

nickbauman wrote: post #27

I would consider a Surface if I could install Linux on it and it worked as well as a my System76. In fact I'm asking: is anyone out there doing this?

Well, someone must be, since there is even a subreddit for it: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/
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