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Re: John Glenn has died

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An often passed around marine legend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF5OBBhdTJ4 -- John Glenn, John Glenn, first American to orbit space. Was a senator from the state of Ohio, oldest man to go back up to space because he was a PT god. Before all of that he was a fucking Marine. An airwinger though. A pilot. John Glenn, 1974 ran for senate against a politician named Howard Metzenbaum. Howard Metzenbaum was a sorry m…

Being enlisted in the military is a job with pay & benefits.

More importantly, this is what Glenn said in response: https://library.osu.edu/documents/ohio-congressional-archive...

Unclear how editing Glenn's own words pays him any respect.

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You've got to read The Right Stuff[1], it's fantastic. Tom Wolfe paints the ethos of the era perfectly, and if you have any interest in this period, early NASA, or the guys themselves it's a must-read. I'd also recommend Chuck Yeager's autobiography[2] as another fantastic read that gives you a feel for what life was like for elite test pilots. 1: https://smile.amazon.com/Right-Stuff-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0312427565... 2: htt…

The other classic (and definitely an HN-appropriate book) is "Failure Is Not an Option," which gives an awesome look at the engineering and management challenges they faced from Mercury to Apollo. https://smile.amazon.com/Failure-Not-Option-Mission-Control/...

Absolutely!

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RIP. I have to wonder, these first missions, did the astronauts have any assurance they would make it back to earth? What was it like to say goodbye to family, not knowing if you would return or not. Am I way off here? Was this mission uncertain or did NASA have reasonable assurances?

You've got to read The Right Stuff[1], it's fantastic. Tom Wolfe paints the ethos of the era perfectly, and if you have any interest in this period, early NASA, or the guys themselves it's a must-read. I'd also recommend Chuck Yeager's autobiography[2] as another fantastic read that gives you a feel for what life was like for elite test pilots. 1: https://smile.amazon.com/Right-Stuff-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0312427565... 2: htt…

While not a replacement for book, 'The Right Stuff' the movie is a great movie.

Re: John Glenn has died

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No, the first cosmonaut was Yuri Gagarin.

OK, I looked it up. Aren't red lights wonderful. It was Vladimir Komarov in '67. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Komarov

Komarov's was particularly sad. He knew he was going to die, and railed at the incompetence of the program engineers during the descent phase that he knew he wouldn't survive. The fact that the main problem was that the parachute straps had been hooked up wrongly was the final (preventable) insult to a brave man.

"Gagarin wrote a 10-page memo and gave it to his best friend in the KGB, Venyamin Russayev, but nobody dared send it up the chain of command. Everyone who saw that memo, including Russayev, was demoted, fired or sent to diplomatic Siberia. With less than a month to go before the launch, Komarov realized postponement was not an option. He met with Russayev, the now-demoted KGB agent, and said, "I'm not going to make it back from this flight."

Russayev asked, Why not refuse? According to the authors, Komarov answered: "If I don't make this flight, they'll send the backup pilot instead." That was Yuri Gagarin. Vladimir Komarov couldn't do that to his friend. "That's Yura," the book quotes him saying, "and he'll die instead of me. We've got to take care of him." Komarov then burst into tears.

On launch day, April 23, 1967, a Russian journalist, Yaroslav Golovanov, reported that Gagarin showed up at the launch site and demanded to be put into a spacesuit, though no one was expecting him to fly. Golovanov called this behavior "a sudden caprice," though afterward some observers thought Gagarin was trying to muscle onto the flight to save his friend. The Soyuz left Earth with Komarov on board.

Once the Soyuz began to orbit the Earth, the failures began. Antennas didn't open properly. Power was compromised. Navigation proved difficult. The next day's launch had to be canceled. And worse, Komarov's chances for a safe return to Earth were dwindling fast.

All the while, U.S. intelligence was listening in. The National Security Agency had a facility at an Air Force base near Istanbul. Previous reports said that U.S. listeners knew something was wrong but couldn't make out the words. In this account, an NSA analyst, identified in the book as Perry Fellwock, described overhearing Komarov tell ground control officials he knew he was about to die. Fellwock described how Soviet premier Alexei Kosygin called on a video phone to tell him he was a hero. Komarov's wife was also on the call to talk about what to say to their children. Kosygin was crying."

Re: John Glenn has died

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They were all test pilots, they knew what the chances were.

I'm sure it was presumed to be "not good" as a baseline, and coming back in one piece was a bonus.

Pretty much. Which is the daily life of a test pilot (especially at the time, some planes were absolute death traps). They knew the engineers were trying to make things as safe as possible, but they were still sitting atop giant missiles full of stuff going kabloey if you looked at it wrong: Glenn's first orbit was launched by an Atlas LV-3B, a modified and saferized derivation of the Atlas D ICBM powered by RP1/LOX.

Well to be fair RP1/LOX is fairly tame when compared with H2/LOX or Hydrazine derivatives.

Re: John Glenn has died

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John Glenn was one of my boyhood heroes. I remember as a young boy listening to reports of him taking off and making those three orbits of the earth. My uncle gave me a crystal radio shaped like Glenn's Friendship 7 capsule that ignited a fierce passion into radio that led to a ham radio license and a lifelong interest in science. It was a time in America when the future seemed endless, anything was possible. A lot h…

Would you mind talking about your passion for radio? It's not something I've really thought about (beyond a general, taking-it-for-granted "hey this is handy, I'm glad we have this in our repertoire of technology"), so I'd love to hear about your love.

Kind of a weird comment. Is this a writing prompt, or do you really talk to people in the "I'd love to hear about your love" manner?

Radio is awesome because of how awesome it is. Check out the new startup, google.com, if you want to find some more material about why.

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