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AWS announces new region in Canada

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Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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OVH has a monster data center there too. The region has very cheap power due to a lot of hydroelectric available.

OVH is French-speaking too, so they will probably have the advantage for now.

Not Quebecois-French, though, LOL...

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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How can you be sure that data transmitting between the centre and user in Canada doesn't leave Canadian borders?

It almost certainly goes through the US no matter what you do. Traffic going anywhere out of my city first drops down to a big peer exchange in the US, then back up into Canada.

Mind to share a trace route to such destinations?

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I work for a large healthcare organization and multiple times have seen group messages instructing staff not to use surveymonkey since the data was hosted in the States, and something about the Patriot act allowing US authorities to view the data without warrants or something.

I work in education, and in BC we have the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA) that stops us from using anything good. SurveyMonkey just went and bought a Canadian run survey company and moved all the servers, we had to drop our contracts... everyone is left without anything. We def can't use Dropbox, Google Docs/Drive, anything above Office 2010. Slack is frowned upon even. It is kind of bru…

> Office 2010

Why would FIPPA affect Office versions past 2010? 2013, 2015 and 2016 are available as standalone (non-365 subscription) versions, and regardless of your purchase model (subscription, retail, volume, etc) you can still store documents locally.

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Shit internet up until recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Internet_Exchange

40GB/s??? How does amazon expect to put an entire region in there and to share the 40GB/s with the other hosts already up there (OVH)?

Amazon connections between regions are owned by Amazon. Only last mile traffic would need to go to an Exchange.

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I don't believe there's any requirements for the data to never cross borders on transmission, just that it must be stored in Canada.

IT Manager in the Canadian Government here. There is indeed a requirement stating that data must not cross the border. This requirement though depends on the department and level of information security. Whether or not AWS, Azure, etc. can meet this...I honestly don't know.

Yes, for government entities, but the rest of the comments here are talking about businesses, which are going to be the primary consumers of AWS in Canada. There's probably many more requirements that would be needed to be met for any cloud provider to be used for governments.

I don't believe any provinces have requirements on border crossing, and there's no federal requirement on data sovereignty at all for private corporations.

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DigitalOcean also has a DC in Canada, this is really useful for companies in Canada or doing business in Canada that have requirements around keeping Canadian customer data in Canada. Additionally the Canadian startup ecosystem seems to be doing pretty well relatively to other regions.

Data Locality is going to continue to be a strong driver for cloud providers getting a presence in different countries. It feels like it's post-Snowden (but it may be I wasn't paying enough attention before then), but more and more countries have been passing data locality laws and are less willing to have their data residing in the US.

Does data locality matter if the servers are controlled by a US company?
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