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Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by sandsmark » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:07 PM UTC

NoGravitas wrote: post #27

I really like the idea. But I don't much care for it syncing to the vendor's cloud server. If it would sync in open file formats to my NextCloud instance, then that's attractive. Also, there's definitely a balance to be struck between lack of distraction and lack of features. It would be a waste for this not to have an epub reader, for example. But while I'd really appreciate having email on it, that's starting to ge…

about epub, that's one format we're already committed to supporting. it's listed in the FAQ. we're very careful about not over-promising, that's partly why there aren't more features listed.

edit; really besides the point, but saw your nick. our internal name for the prototype (in u-boot and the kernel) is zero-gravitas.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by gizzlon » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:08 PM UTC

NoGravitas wrote: post #27

I really like the idea. But I don't much care for it syncing to the vendor's cloud server. If it would sync in open file formats to my NextCloud instance, then that's attractive. Also, there's definitely a balance to be struck between lack of distraction and lack of features. It would be a waste for this not to have an epub reader, for example. But while I'd really appreciate having email on it, that's starting to ge…

epub: Yes, email: No :)

https://getremarkable.com/faq

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by sparkie » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:08 PM UTC

gizzlon wrote: post #28

pttrsmrt wrote: post #16

I was sold until this line: "Your thoughts, whether they’re words or sketches, are instantly synced to reMarkable’s cloud service" Imagine for a company only five years back to literally say that your thoughts are sent to their server. I welcome any product that understand we need less distractions and less help from so-called AI, but there are many reasons to be cautious about this one (preorder, latency claim and l…

I'm one of the guys working on this. We make money on the product, storing this stuff actually costs us.. So we have no intentions of syncing more than you would want to :) There's some tech specs on the site (getremarkable.com)

Can we turn off the sync to cloud?

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by gizzlon » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:10 PM UTC

sparkie wrote: post #33

gizzlon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm one of the guys working on this. We make money on the product, storing this stuff actually costs us.. So we have no intentions of syncing more than you would want to :) There's some tech specs on the site (getremarkable.com)

Can we turn off the sync to cloud?

Good point, we'll keep it in mind

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by sandsmark » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:16 PM UTC

rtpg wrote: post #25

For those who really want a PDF annotator, Sony sells a large mostly-equivalent of this, there's the Sony DPT-S1 https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-DPTS1/?PID=I:digitalpa... This is a pro device, costs almost $1000. I don't own one but a friend does... it's very magical looking, and feels nice for the 2 minutes I used it.

they've been dumping the price and trying to empty their warehouses, so I'm not sure if you can actually buy it anymore. at least not outside of japan.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by wangchow » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:19 PM UTC

gizzlon wrote: post #34

sparkie wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we turn off the sync to cloud?

Good point, we'll keep it in mind

Also would like to sync to cloud of our choosing. Dropbox, box, one drive, adobe cloud, etc. I am not a fan of having to use a million cloud services these days.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by awalGarg » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:20 PM UTC

Hi. I am a paper guy too. Until this thing hits the market wide, gets lots of positive reviews and has its costs reduced, does anyone have tips for managing lots of real paper? I feel like some organization tricks could help ease dealing with paper problems.

I use paper to sketch out thoughts and draw diagrams, and I don't want unlimited papers. 5 pages a day is enough for me. I wish I could say I read books - I don't. So I only have to manage papers on which I write things and refer to them quickly whenever possible. It works fine, but if someone has tips to help, please share. Thanks.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by pttrsmrt » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:20 PM UTC

sandsmark wrote: post #24

pttrsmrt wrote: post #16

I was sold until this line: "Your thoughts, whether they’re words or sketches, are instantly synced to reMarkable’s cloud service" Imagine for a company only five years back to literally say that your thoughts are sent to their server. I welcome any product that understand we need less distractions and less help from so-called AI, but there are many reasons to be cautious about this one (preorder, latency claim and l…

the reason we're a bit scant on technical details so far is partly because we have spent most of our technical resources on actually making the device. but we'll try to get out a more technical blog post soon. another reason is that we can't share too much about what we're working on in case some journalist picks up some wording as promising some feature we can't deliver on. a lot of the stuff we're working on is stu…

Great to hear from you guys directly! I guess we (i.e techie internet folks, you included) have been served so many crowd funded promises that it's difficult to believe things that are too good to be true. Although I'm personally a big advocate of keeping stuff open, I do understand that a small company has to have some secrets for themselves.

Now I see you're also a developer at KDE which certainly gives credibility to your statements! But on the same note I truly hope the information from the device will be encrypted on your server, and that an opt-out of this sync will be possible. And if there will be support for Owncloud or the like, you've literally made my dream device!

I truly understand and support that you don't promise stuff that aren't really made yet, and I really hope the privacy concerns will be taken as serious as they are.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by davman » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:21 PM UTC

sandsmark wrote: post #17

amelius wrote: post #11

They need to solve the "lag" problem. Then I'll consider buying one.

this is actually the problem we have solved (for epaper). Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKmfyThA9Sg to https://youtu.be/34I27KPZM6g?t=52

While you have certainly made huge and impressive improvements, I still don't think I could call that "solved". I think any latency is still going to put people off when it comes to writing on this vs. paper.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Tablet

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Post by IanDrake » Tue, Dec 06, 2016, 1:24 PM UTC

Looks really cool. Hope you guys nail it.

I'm hoping to see more and more e-ink offerings. For myself, I would like a 50" curved e-ink monitor for work, black and white is fine. I know e-ink has terrible refresh rates, but I'm working with code and consoles 90% of the time. I could put web browsers and other stuff on another monitor.