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Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by aseipp »

dom0 wrote: post #10
nathancahill wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they want people to actually use it.

Because Software like Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Typo3 and so on isn't used?

Pointing out that a lot of internet runs, in part, thanks to millions of lines of GPL code that people reuse and extend on a daily basis? Well, it isn't allowed, I'm afraid. It breaks the narrative that the GPL is old and busted garbage, you see, and we can't have that going on in these parts. Consider yourself persona non grata #1 with that attitude!

It's very simple. It would mean my soapbox wouldn't feel so tall when I speak, and that when I take other peoples code, I might, some day, actually have to give something back as a result. As opposed to just taking it, profiting off it (like ~80% of people who 'eschew' the GPL because they can't make as much money as possible off it) and never doing anything in return.

As I'm sure you can understand, those consequences would be utterly devastating. For me. I hope you can fully empathize with my plight, so we can reach a mutual understanding. Preferably in the form of you giving me things with no strings attached.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by JPKab »

orenbarzilai wrote: post #12

There is also Redash http://docs.redash.io/en/latest/ We are using it and it's awesome.

Redash is amazing. I used it for a little while on a retail analytics project. Arik, the lead developer and founder, is awesome and super responsive to emails.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by arxpoetica »

dsjoerg wrote: post #29
weego wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

I disagree 100% with you. I love comments like GP. Any new tool should be considered in comparison to the other tools one might use for the same job. Is Grafana "barely related even tangentially"? No it is quite related. Have the creators of Cyclotron considered how it compares to existing tools? Probably, and they should come forward and be open about it.

Yes.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by cultureulterior »

mrkmcknz wrote: post #14

There seems to be a plethora of these open source dashboard builder systems. I just want to pay for a hosted version that isn't going to be $1k monthly and require me to build "plugins" to do something that is akin to an API call.

Librato. Unfortunately, their free offering has stopped, even though that was my main way of converting people into using them

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by ascendantlogic »

dsjoerg wrote: post #29
weego wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

I disagree 100% with you. I love comments like GP. Any new tool should be considered in comparison to the other tools one might use for the same job. Is Grafana "barely related even tangentially"? No it is quite related. Have the creators of Cyclotron considered how it compares to existing tools? Probably, and they should come forward and be open about it.

Exactly. I need to understand what value this particular software brings to the table compared to the "competition" before I will invest any serious time into looking at it.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by MichaelApproved »

weego wrote: post #11
wrkronmiller wrote: post #7

How does this compare to something like Grafana? https://github.com/grafana/grafana

Can I just take a moment, and I apologise up front for singling you out for this one, to say how much I hate comments like this, even more that they get upvoted. There's always some arbitrary software mentioned that is often barely related even tangentially and expect someone else to reply with the info. If you want to know how it differs, YOU look it up and if the outcome of that research is interesting enough YOU p…

Consider that a comment like OP's starts a conversation about this product and also shares a similar product with the community for more exposure. Sometimes, the creator of the product will even step in to expand on the topic.

It's not the most articulate way of starting the conversation but it is effective.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by detaro »

ohstopitu wrote: post #27
omouse wrote: post #2

I never understand why people choose MIT when they create something valuable and don't go for AGPL or GPL. Looks good though :D

Since we are talking about licenses, is there a license that is as permissive as MIT but one that requires you to give credit for your work?

What do you mean by "give credit"? You have to name the original author with MIT somewhere:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

Re: Cyclotron: A web application for constructing dashboards

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Post by agentgt »

I would like to share some thoughts on this based on experience of being a crusty old enterprise developer. The dashboard problem keeps coming back. I think the time might be finally coming for some dashboard framework to actually succeed.

A dashboard framework has been tried many many times. Here are some old ones just on the top of my head:

* Shindig aka OpenSocial aka Google Gadgets

* J2EE portlets

* OpenUSS

I'm not sure why Shindig aka Google Gadgets failed but one of the complaint we had on a product that I helped build that used Shindig is that business users did not want the complexity of customizing a dashboard. That is hard coded panels were good enough.

I guess just like many tech stuff (slack/irc, wiki) the timing and execution just wasn't right. I think now that might change given the plethora of devops, data driven biz, and generally improvement in tech awareness.

It would be nice if Cyclotron had some sort of spec (particularly language agnostic) but I guess that failed hard for the above.

For my own small company we use Kibana (the old one that doesn't require NodeJS), Grafana, and Jenkins.

Yes we use Jenkins as a dashboard. Jenkins is actually shockingly a good place for a dashboard because every time we build/deploy or kick off some kind of job we see the current status of stuff. I'm not sure why cloudbees hasn't taken advantage of this. I honestly think it is the best place to put devopsy like dashboards.

The other nice thing about Jenkins besides it actually kicking things off is the notification. IMO notification is almost more important and more useful than dashboards. The two should be not be far apart but for some reason in most systems they are.

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