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The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by SyneRyder »

metafunctor wrote: post #27
SyneRyder wrote: post #22

The "Fun Bugs" section is really concerning. So, if you set the date on a new MacBook Pro to 1/1/1970, your MBP will fail to boot, because the OS in your keyboard still has a bug that was patched in iOS, but not in keyboardOS? I must be misreading that bit, surely?

Nope, just tried it. The machine will boot, it just takes a long time (some timeouts at play, I assume). If anything, Touch ID not working if the system time is wildly incorrect is makes me trust it more, rather than less. Would I like the system design be more open and better documented? Sure. But if a security feature doesn't work when the clock is set 45 years in the past… is not concerning per se.

That doesn't sound quite so bad then, I'm assuming it's possible to login without Touch ID. Although it does make worry about how usable the machine will be when Apple eventually stops updating/signing the TouchBar firmware.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by hellofunk »

acqq wrote: post #16
hellofunk wrote: post #12

The title of this HN post has been edited and does not reflect the article. The correct title is: "Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros"

Yes, admins, please, the current title is against HN title non-editorializing policies.

I wonder how you can ping one of the admins. Will he respond if I do this:

dang

or this @dang

?

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by EasyTiger_ »

Ralfp wrote: post #29
Remmib wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

Also give me photoshop because I work with PSD's plenty and I'm tempted.

Hell give me the whole Adobe CC suite

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by NietTim »

hellofunk wrote: post #32
acqq wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, admins, please, the current title is against HN title non-editorializing policies.

I wonder how you can ping one of the admins. Will he respond if I do this: dang or this @dang ?

/u/dang maybe? Does this even work on here to begin with, since there is no real inbox?

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by maxerickson »

hellofunk wrote: post #32
acqq wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, admins, please, the current title is against HN title non-editorializing policies.

I wonder how you can ping one of the admins. Will he respond if I do this: dang or this @dang ?

mailto:hn@ycombinator.com

(It's linked in the footer)

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

#36

Post by iainmerrick »

Remmib wrote: post #19
iSnow wrote: post #3

Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense.

That would be great, but I don't think they have the expertise in-house for that right now -- they'd have to ramp up and that's a slow process.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by [deleted] »

SyneRyder wrote: post #31
metafunctor wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, just tried it. The machine will boot, it just takes a long time (some timeouts at play, I assume). If anything, Touch ID not working if the system time is wildly incorrect is makes me trust it more, rather than less. Would I like the system design be more open and better documented? Sure. But if a security feature doesn't work when the clock is set 45 years in the past… is not concerning per se.

That doesn't sound quite so bad then, I'm assuming it's possible to login without Touch ID. Although it does make worry about how usable the machine will be when Apple eventually stops updating/signing the TouchBar firmware.

[deleted]

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by in_the_sticks »

nerdponx wrote: post #17
drvdevd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, in this case the "pro" is the admin who has to manage the Mac fleet or the developer who has to use a Mac at their place of employment. This is all being due to their widespread popularity as "pro" devices. If Apple plays fast and loose with this as a marketing term only, when will this "pro" market open to competition? I suppose it already has, judging from this article.

Except it's not. At least not until someone starts making aluminum unibody laptops with Retina displays running some enterprise Linux distro in which everything on the desktop "just works" including printing and networking.

Why Retina?

15" HP Spectre x360. UHD display. Option for double the max RAM in the new MBP. Several other nifty features, including an aluminum body and somewhat replaceable components without all of the glue nonsense you'll see in Apple products.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by tdkl »

Remmib wrote: post #19
iSnow wrote: post #3

Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

Their revenue comes from ads and cloud. They have 0 incentive doing anything for desktop OS.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by digi_owl »

Remmib wrote: post #19
iSnow wrote: post #3

Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

They may be heading that way with Android given recent changes.
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