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Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by nkozyra »

omginternets wrote: post #3

I'm reminded of this: https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. The surrounding question of the socialization of the internet is interesting, to be sure, but at the end of the day these are just animated emojis...

It's been a while since I've seen that episode, but ... wasn't that _the_ product in SV? This represents a small bit of UX that may be compelling enough to keep users engaged in new ways on their primary product (a relatively large social media site, ftr).

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by peller »

etimberg wrote: post #13
echelon wrote: post #5

This is really slick, and I'm going to investigate using it for the Donald Trump animation on jungle.horse. The license [1] doesn't look to be as encumbered as some of Facebook's other open source licenses, but does include a clause I found to be strange: > provided Your Software does not consist solely of the Software So if I'm reading this correctly, it means only Facebook can redistribute this software? Wat. [1] h…

I wonder how that affects creating a fork of it. At what point does it become different enough that you can safely distribute it

IANAL, but it reads to me like they don't think that point exists. "You can use it, but you can't publish a fork of it." Definitely not open source in my eyes.

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by electic »

echelon wrote: post #27
lozzle wrote: post #23

Hey, everyone! I'm one of the developers at Facebook who worked on this library since its conception! Really excited to be able to share this library today! I'll be checking up here periodically and can help answer any technical questions that you have!

Why does the software license [1] include the following clause: > provided Your Software does not consist solely of the Software Why didn't you guys choose MIT or BSD? It feels like the custom Facebook license is close to the intent of these, but it has that mysterious gotcha. In any case, thanks for the software! It looks really slick, and I definitely have a use case for using it to replace the sprite sheet I used…

You are misreading it.

Software = Keyframes software.

Your Software = Whatever you are releasing.

So basically they are saying you can't redistribute just the Keyframes software library by itself. Which also means, if I understand this right, you can't fork it and modify it either.

I agree however, not a good license.

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by Eridrus »

lozzle wrote: post #23

Hey, everyone! I'm one of the developers at Facebook who worked on this library since its conception! Really excited to be able to share this library today! I'll be checking up here periodically and can help answer any technical questions that you have!

I get grey flashes over the animations/text in my HN reader (Materialistic).

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by echelon »

electic wrote: post #34
echelon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the software license [1] include the following clause: > provided Your Software does not consist solely of the Software Why didn't you guys choose MIT or BSD? It feels like the custom Facebook license is close to the intent of these, but it has that mysterious gotcha. In any case, thanks for the software! It looks really slick, and I definitely have a use case for using it to replace the sprite sheet I used…

You are misreading it. Software = Keyframes software. Your Software = Whatever you are releasing. So basically they are saying you can't redistribute just the Keyframes software library by itself. Which also means, if I understand this right, you can't fork it and modify it either. I agree however, not a good license.

I'm not misreading it. The license says we cannot fork the software. That's not open source.

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by TheFarmingBunny »

seanwilson wrote: post #30
omginternets wrote: post #3

I'm reminded of this: https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. The surrounding question of the socialization of the internet is interesting, to be sure, but at the end of the day these are just animated emojis...

> Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. You don't think having an easy way to create high quality animations for any purpose that work on multiple platforms is interesting...? You might not find the current application of it interesting but that's like saying React isn't interesting because someone used it to make another Flappy…

But react isn't interesting because they could have just modified custom elements via a polyfill and javascript extension. It would work mostly natively on newer browsers. Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers. Facebook seems to want to dominate with single-use, clunky libaries.

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by seanwilson »

TheFarmingBunny wrote: post #38
seanwilson wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. You don't think having an easy way to create high quality animations for any purpose that work on multiple platforms is interesting...? You might not find the current application of it interesting but that's like saying React isn't interesting because someone used it to make another Flappy…

But react isn't interesting because they could have just modified custom elements via a polyfill and javascript extension. It would work mostly natively on newer browsers. Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers. Facebook seems to want to dominate with single-use, clunky libaries.

> Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers

That's another approach which has it's own pros and cons. The approach from the article is obviously good if you have Affect Effects experts on hand. I'm not understanding why this isn't interesting to programmers who on a daily basis have to weigh up the pros and cons of different technology/library choices.

Re: Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations to mobile clients

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Post by [deleted] »

TheFarmingBunny wrote: post #38
seanwilson wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. You don't think having an easy way to create high quality animations for any purpose that work on multiple platforms is interesting...? You might not find the current application of it interesting but that's like saying React isn't interesting because someone used it to make another Flappy…

But react isn't interesting because they could have just modified custom elements via a polyfill and javascript extension. It would work mostly natively on newer browsers. Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers. Facebook seems to want to dominate with single-use, clunky libaries.

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