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Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by jsjohnst »

peschkaj wrote: post #23
coldtea wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fear not though, they'll still happily lag behind current hardware for better margins. They don't "lag behind current hardware for better margins". The CPU class they use in the MBPr line is still unavailable from Intel. Early "Kaby Lake" PC laptops use other, more power hungry, Kaby Lake models, and even those in limited runs. If they wanted to achieve better margins in any way, they could use way worse constructi…

Are you referring to the i7-6700HQ that was released in 2015? The CPU that's present in the 15" Retina MacBook Pro? Or is there a different CPU that nobody else is privy to?

There isn't a mobile class edition of the Kalby Lake processor with four cores available. The 15" Pro has been quad core as long as I can remember. It was also only announced a few months ago.

Skylake processors were announced last year and the new laptop uses them. In fact, I believe the 15" BTO edition uses the fastest Skylake processor Intel makes.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by krew_tahn »

monkmartinez wrote: post #27
hanief wrote: post #22

Apple's HIG[1] on the Touch bar is actually great. You can sort of understand the reason Apple put it on the Macbook. You can at least envision two interesting things: - Touch UI for scrubbing/scrolling contents faster. - Dynamic shortcuts for most used commands that previously only accessible by using the keyboard. [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/Us...

You mean like the ginormous trackpad directly beneath the keyboard? Wouldn't it be cool if they built scrubbing/scrolling right into that? Also, dynamic shortcuts! Like the kind you get with BetterTouchTool[1]? [1] https://www.boastr.net/

No. Ye gods no.

O' how I despise the new trackpads that aren't merely trackpad pointing devices, but also buttons, scrollbars and other bullshit I never wanted too.

Christ. I need to move the fucking mouse cursor. And, shit on me, I did not intend on fucking clicking or swiping anything, or an other absurdly tangential but obliquely imaginable bullshit, God damn it.

The worst is when you have to press the trackpad to click the button, and as your fleshy fingers flatten out against the trackpad, it registers the pressure center moving slightly, and so the pointer moves, and you click the wrong God damned thing because the trackpad IS the button.

It was better when the buttons were separate plastic divisions disconnected from the motion tracking area.

JUST MOVE THE CURSOR PLEASE.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by [deleted] »

monkmartinez wrote: post #27
hanief wrote: post #22

Apple's HIG[1] on the Touch bar is actually great. You can sort of understand the reason Apple put it on the Macbook. You can at least envision two interesting things: - Touch UI for scrubbing/scrolling contents faster. - Dynamic shortcuts for most used commands that previously only accessible by using the keyboard. [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/Us...

You mean like the ginormous trackpad directly beneath the keyboard? Wouldn't it be cool if they built scrubbing/scrolling right into that? Also, dynamic shortcuts! Like the kind you get with BetterTouchTool[1]? [1] https://www.boastr.net/

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Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by hanief »

monkmartinez wrote: post #27
hanief wrote: post #22

Apple's HIG[1] on the Touch bar is actually great. You can sort of understand the reason Apple put it on the Macbook. You can at least envision two interesting things: - Touch UI for scrubbing/scrolling contents faster. - Dynamic shortcuts for most used commands that previously only accessible by using the keyboard. [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/Us...

You mean like the ginormous trackpad directly beneath the keyboard? Wouldn't it be cool if they built scrubbing/scrolling right into that? Also, dynamic shortcuts! Like the kind you get with BetterTouchTool[1]? [1] https://www.boastr.net/

I haven't actually tried it yet, but by watching the launch demo and several screenshots of touch bar on app like Photos or Final Cut Pro I can see that:

- Touch Bar is probably better on scrubbing/scrolling because you can actually see the zoomed out content, like the entire timeline of the movie on FCP.

- I haven't tried Boastr. I am sure it's useful and faster for pro. But on first look it's pretty complicated. It's not built in to the Mac and not easily accessible, especially for new user.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by garrettgrimsley »

anothermoron wrote: post #5
antishatter wrote: post #3

As silly as the touch bar looks this type of project gives me hope for its usefulness.

You seem to have a strange definition for "usefulness".

The charitable interpretation of their comment is not that Nyan Cat is useful, but that this is a creative use for a new medium/input device, and that we will likely see more uses developed for it that we had not previously envisioned.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

#38

Post by coldtea »

ovao wrote: post #17
coldtea wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fear not though, they'll still happily lag behind current hardware for better margins. They don't "lag behind current hardware for better margins". The CPU class they use in the MBPr line is still unavailable from Intel. Early "Kaby Lake" PC laptops use other, more power hungry, Kaby Lake models, and even those in limited runs. If they wanted to achieve better margins in any way, they could use way worse constructi…

How would using USB 2.1 be cheaper than the standard Intel and Apple co-developed?

By having been a commodity hardware item for ages, produced in bulk for next to nothing at all.

It's not about licensing fees.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by antishatter »

garrettgrimsley wrote: post #37
anothermoron wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to have a strange definition for "usefulness".

The charitable interpretation of their comment is not that Nyan Cat is useful, but that this is a creative use for a new medium/input device, and that we will likely see more uses developed for it that we had not previously envisioned.

That is what I was thinking about.

Re: Nyancat on the touchbar

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Post by nom »

tdy721 wrote: post #26
nom wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it could still work as a key :>

But will it work like a key?

It should be possible with enough care. A touch sensitive space bar would really enhance a keyboard (I'm mostly using a desktop though, doesn't make sense on a laptop)
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