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‘Black Mirror’ Finds Terror, and Soul, in the Machine

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I've only watched 3 of the episodes (Playtest, Shut Up and Dance, and Hated in the Nation)...I've heard the other 3 episodes were better, but the 3 that I have watched seemed subpar compared to the previous 2 seasons. Not terrible as far as overall TV goes, but after the plot thrills were over, they just didn't leave the same queasiness-about-possible-future-dystopia that "White Bear", "White Christmas", "Entire Hist…

San Junipero is superb!

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Black Mirror often takes little details that we add in software, like a rating system, and takes them to their extreme and logical conclusion. Its premises are mostly sci-fi, but as thought experiments on how what we do could lead to a severe dystopia, it is superbly engaging. I recommend watching no more than one episode per day - I've been thinking about its topics quite a lot recently. At the least, it's refreshin…

> Black Mirror often takes little details that we add in software, like a rating system, and takes them to their extreme and logical conclusion. I can't tell if you're dismissing the logical conclusion as unlikely. The proliferation of ratings systems, from Facebook likes to Tinder swipes to Uber drivers who have to stay above 4.7 just to keep their job, tells me that we're a lot closer to that logical conclusion tha…

you read that from the word 'extreme'? I don't think 'unlikely' follows at all from that classification. Of course this is subjective, but I'd argue looking at world history, what we deem 'extreme' has shown its face again and again - may actually even be humanity's natural (i.e. lower energy) state that we have to constantly push back against. From the perspective of a person or cabal in power, keeping everyone under control with the threat of extreme physical or psychological violence is probably easier, i.e. lower energy, than to allow a free society. What makes Black Mirror so scary is that it hints at us being on a trajectory to actually make such mass control effective and feasible, through technology.

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I've watched the first episode and had some existential questions pop up while on a walk today. Isn't that end-all rating system, like you mention, the final form of many companies like Facebook or Instagram? When the value generated on the platform grows beyond its platform to other important parts of society. I think this is only just starting to happen, like Air BnB's usage of Facebook profiles as host validation,…

Apparently China plans to role out that kind of rating system by 2020, dubbed a "social credit score": http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186

It's scary how relevant some of Black Mirror's themes actually are. This one in particular is so close, I wonder whether the show's creators used it as a template.

Edit: Apparently not, as this information is only publicly available since this September. Zeitgeist at work?

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I've watched the first episode and had some existential questions pop up while on a walk today. Isn't that end-all rating system, like you mention, the final form of many companies like Facebook or Instagram? When the value generated on the platform grows beyond its platform to other important parts of society. I think this is only just starting to happen, like Air BnB's usage of Facebook profiles as host validation,…

Apparently China plans to role out that kind of rating system by 2020, dubbed a "social credit score": http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186

Unless it's changed significantly recently, this "credit score" is only being used by Alibaba, and is more akin to a regular old karma system like that used on HN or reddit.

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I've only watched 3 of the episodes (Playtest, Shut Up and Dance, and Hated in the Nation)...I've heard the other 3 episodes were better, but the 3 that I have watched seemed subpar compared to the previous 2 seasons. Not terrible as far as overall TV goes, but after the plot thrills were over, they just didn't leave the same queasiness-about-possible-future-dystopia that "White Bear", "White Christmas", "Entire Hist…

Season 3 is not as hard-hitting as previous seasons, but it's still brilliant and thought provoking science fiction.

Production value is better and stories can sometimes have happy endings. Definitely more mellow for larger audience.

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I was really sad at how short season 3 was, but quality over quantity, at the very least I am grateful that Netflix revived one of my favorite shows. If all netflix does is pick up popular shows that arent popular enough for time slot tv, and inject new life into them I will be a netflix subscriber forever.

Netflix didn't revive it. They outbid the original producers for production rights. It would've been continued one way or another.

Why the massive gap since season 2 then? If you dont count the single episode "special" there hasnt been a season 3.5 years.

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Netflix didn't revive it. They outbid the original producers for production rights. It would've been continued one way or another.

Why the massive gap since season 2 then? If you dont count the single episode "special" there hasnt been a season 3.5 years.

Look at the Sherlock Holmes gaps.

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I've only watched 3 of the episodes (Playtest, Shut Up and Dance, and Hated in the Nation)...I've heard the other 3 episodes were better, but the 3 that I have watched seemed subpar compared to the previous 2 seasons. Not terrible as far as overall TV goes, but after the plot thrills were over, they just didn't leave the same queasiness-about-possible-future-dystopia that "White Bear", "White Christmas", "Entire Hist…

I don't see episode 3 being sub par. It's classic Black Mirror.
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