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Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by HalfwayToDice »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #6
thomasville wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope he goes there and there then they run another poll which determines he should be extradited to the US to be held accountable for his actions.

The people of Iceland are intelligent, as evidenced by their jailing of bankers and election of the Pirate Party, so would not hand him over. If small-minded people cared 1% as much about holding their own government accountable as they did whistleblowers, imagine how much better society would be?

Iceland did not "jail their bankers", where do you get your news from?

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by Natanael_L »

adventured wrote: post #21
beardog wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pirate party is actually pretty socialist.

Half the libertarian position is typically about being very socially liberal (privacy, freedom of speech, religious freedom, marriage equality (via removal of the state from that equation), drug decriminalization/legalization, et al). The pirate party tends toward socially liberal based on what I've read over the years. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They originated from Sweden's Pirate Party, which to a large part is social liberal (a mix of socialist and advocating individual freedom). While not all "copies" of the party abroad necessarily has adopted the same position, it seems many of them did.

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by Natanael_L »

nols wrote: post #15
jaza wrote: post #8

Could Iceland become the first country in the world to adopt Bitcoin (or an alternative crypto) as its national currency? If the Pirate Party wins, this could be one of the numerous cool experiments in government to take place.

Bitcoin can't handle the number of transactions required. It's simply not technically possible for the blockchain to be used as a country's (or medium sized city's) primary currency.

With techniques like Lightning Network you can use networks of "payment channels" to effectively compress many transactions into a few, so it isn't impossible. You just won't have everything included directly in the blockchain individually.

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by kahrkunne »

aedron wrote: post #25

This kind of change could only happen in Europe, due to the multi-party system. In America, as has so often been proven, the system is rigged to prevent alternatives to the established parties. I honestly believe this proves the superiority of this system, over the American one. The great advantage of democracy is that it provides an avenue for peaceful change, or, if you are more cynical, the appearance of such. Thi…

Dutch here. We need at least 5 parties to make a government in the next election. Nothing ever changes here because everything has to go through many iterations of compromises if it even wants to leave the negotiation table. I wish we had a system like the USA.

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by ejlo »

HalfwayToDice wrote: post #31
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people of Iceland are intelligent, as evidenced by their jailing of bankers and election of the Pirate Party, so would not hand him over. If small-minded people cared 1% as much about holding their own government accountable as they did whistleblowers, imagine how much better society would be?

Iceland did not "jail their bankers", where do you get your news from?

Hmm, did you try searching for it before posting?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_fi...

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by izacus »

kahrkunne wrote: post #36
aedron wrote: post #25

This kind of change could only happen in Europe, due to the multi-party system. In America, as has so often been proven, the system is rigged to prevent alternatives to the established parties. I honestly believe this proves the superiority of this system, over the American one. The great advantage of democracy is that it provides an avenue for peaceful change, or, if you are more cynical, the appearance of such. Thi…

Dutch here. We need at least 5 parties to make a government in the next election. Nothing ever changes here because everything has to go through many iterations of compromises if it even wants to leave the negotiation table. I wish we had a system like the USA.

A system where you'd only have two prepackaged choices for ALL the possible complicated state issues? O.o

Those proportional system compromises aren't half as bad.

Re: Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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Post by jamnik »

aedron wrote: post #25

This kind of change could only happen in Europe, due to the multi-party system. In America, as has so often been proven, the system is rigged to prevent alternatives to the established parties. I honestly believe this proves the superiority of this system, over the American one. The great advantage of democracy is that it provides an avenue for peaceful change, or, if you are more cynical, the appearance of such. Thi…

Simply not true. In two party system radical ideas are taking over the parties and changing their agenda. It's not like OWS has no influence in the Democrat Party. Or Tea Party in thevRepublucan Party. Both are mainstreamed by the parties, but that's a good thing. By civilizing radical elements you can actually still enjoy democracy vs having it destroyed by radicals like nazis or communists. Never thought why US never voted communists or nazis into power? Two party system. That's why it is superior. It civilized and mainstreams radical elements.
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