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Internet Attack Spreads, Disrupting Major Websites

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Schneier wrote about related attacks just over a month ago in a post titled "Someone Is Learning How to Take Down the Internet" ( https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_le... )

Hopefully it's not related threats about hacking during the election. Remember that recently Biden openly threatened cyber attack on Russia if they make any attempt to tamper with the election. Which is completely unprecedented, as is the notion that DOD is openly saying Russia was behind DNC and other attacks.

Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.

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Can't recall ever seeing the NY Times embed tweets in a story, is this a first? edit: apparently it's because I mostly read the site within the app.

I wonder if the embeds break when a tweet gets deleted. That was always one of my biggest concerns when using them: that someone else can change / break your article in the future.

The embeds resolve to plaintext when a tweet is deleted. In fact, the standard embed code includes the Tweet text in plaintext, so that at least the content is preserved

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I don't think so. Modern botnets are mostly made of devices that are operating 24/7 already, such as compromised IP cameras, set top boxes, SOHO routers, IoT devices, etc. The energy spent for TCP/IP stack usage is negligible at best, even when pushing those embedded CPUs to 100%.

> The energy spent for TCP/IP stack usage is negligible at best. Not true, especially en masse. Even less true for wirelessly connected devices.

Hm, in my experience the difference between idle and 100% CPU usage on a modern ARM processor (e.g. Allwinner H3) is around 1 Watt. That's more or less what an LCD monitor in standby draws.

I wouldn't call that significant (as in, impacting the global energy consumption significantly) even if thousands of devices started the attack at the same time.

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Hopefully it's not related threats about hacking during the election. Remember that recently Biden openly threatened cyber attack on Russia if they make any attempt to tamper with the election. Which is completely unprecedented, as is the notion that DOD is openly saying Russia was behind DNC and other attacks.

Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.

It's espionage, not necessarily an act of war. The US government is threatening to strike back with more espionage. (If they haven't already...)

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The U.S. has changed the rules of engagment to state that any cyber attack can be met with real military counterattack.

If the Russians are behind it, after being emboldened by Ukraine and Syria, the United States has to respond. I'm not saying all out war but I am saying we have to show the Russians that this affects everything we are about. It affects our businesses, our elections, and our way of life.

I am saying there should be military action and if that leads to war then so be it, everyone will think twice about this sort of thing again and we will all be safer because of it.

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No, not irony. Our infrastructure is under attack. Why not fight back?

Based on what international laws? The source is likely in a country that doesn't play nice with our law enforcement and extradition requests. So what are you advocating?

Wait until they take that relaxing foreign vacation after all their hard work.

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Trying to fight a war purely with defense is usually a dangerous strategy. The only long-term solution is to find the attackers and take them out.

Except other adversarial technology domains like encryption or spamming where defensive technologies are extremely good when used and 'finding the attackers and taking them out' is ridiculously impractical.

Might not be wildly impractical to brick insecure iot devices.

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The U.S. has changed the rules of engagment to state that any cyber attack can be met with real military counterattack. If the Russians are behind it, after being emboldened by Ukraine and Syria, the United States has to respond. I'm not saying all out war but I am saying we have to show the Russians that this affects everything we are about. It affects our businesses, our elections, and our way of life. I am saying…

> if that leads to war then so be it

Well gee, slow down there buddy

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